How to win Firefights

Ca6e
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Re: How to win Firefights

Post by Ca6e »

Hay there.
Infantry tactics are all about terrain and choosing weapons for that terrain. All kits are usefull, but u dont need sniper in urban warfare. In the desert u need longer range of fire and also covering fire manuevers. Shoot and advance, or shoot and retreat. The squads always contain of more groups, which size depend on Sq size and gear. IN PR u have 6 solders. When u advance to the objective u should devide them into two or tree groups by their gear. 1 group Spoters (Marksman(sniper),Infantry) who are vital to reach the objectives, 2nd (special operations,SL), who are vital to acomplish the objective and 3th group (medic and AR) whos job is to revive, cover the six and suppres the enemy.
We try it and its working particularly when u have man down in 1st gr., support is suppressing the enemy ehn medic heal when 2nd gr. could flank ,retreat to place a rally or also suppress the enemy.
Movment is also easier when u are pinned down. 1st move, 2nd and 3rd suppress, then 1,2 suppress and 2nd move,... And dont forget to cover 360° angle of sight. Runing in the line is like a dominos. First fall then one by one.
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Danger_6
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Re: How to win Firefights

Post by Danger_6 »

we all constantly talk about flanking or winning the firefight. In most cases you would want to win the firefight, to flank. However, disengaging is much more effective a flanking tool (in many cases) . Basically you live to fight another day on your terms. Win the firefight and tactically retreat to approach the enemy on optimal terrain , squad member numbers, health, amo, support from friendly vehicles, and whenever you want to put holes in them instead of them to you. If you are losing the firefight, simply bug out. this places your men in danger, however, less danger than being over-run and flanked. As for winning the firefight, makesure you dont go all haywire with the firing, rapid fire is one shot every three seconds. and those shots have to be well placed instead of firing in the most random of directions and believing you can supress in that fashion.

Secondly get your men to spread out, if you get contacted there is a acronym DCubedCOSMF : dash, diagonally, duck cover, orders, sights, muzzle clearance, fire ( sights and muzzle clearance are irrelevant for pr) get your squad to run to cover and get down first of all. Get into cover, no good you being on top of a mound than below it. wait for oders from the squad leader or give them if you are the squad leader, tell your squad where the enemy is give flanking orders etc. Fire, simple and easy. for type and location of fire GRIT is another usefull acronym: Group , ie which fire team. Range, you can use a marker. indicators, are they by a certain bush, a tree, under a roadsign. type of fire, rapid or ripple etc what ever you deem effective.

Ofcourse you can only expect this from clan players. so there is an alternative for pub players. its simple:

Squad Leaders orders:
-tell them to find cover
-place a marker and tell them to fire, direct them if they are firing off target or too quickly

- now you can tactically retreat or flank. Your choice....
Pel
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Re: How to win Firefights

Post by Pel »

This is how i do it:
* If SL, i try to be in point all the time, just works for me the best. If i get to firefight, i can see the situation myself, dont need to rely on SM intel, which can be sometimes wrong and can lead to loosing firefight because you got wrong idea about situation you are in.
* SL always fights, dont sit back. You have rifle, then use it.
* Never plan ahead of the firefight, unless you are in static position. If you want to win , you must plan on fly, be creative. You see weakness at enemy positions, exploit it, cant see it, find one.
* Dont use fireteams, fireteams make big targets, instead spread out and tell your SM who are at sides that they are free to flank if they see that it could work. But only use that option when you have pinned enemy down and your squad is free to move.
* Each member must be smart enough not to make stupid mistakes, there are many of them so i wont make a list. If you see a guy who keeps making wrong decisions , then guide him, if he wont listen, kick him.
*Position is the key, high ground is good for maintaining control over area lower, but it can be hard to find retreat rout.
*Open your map, check fellow squads, how many of them are dead, where they died and when, and try to remember that. Then you have some idea where enemy might be.
*When at move, enemy opens up fire on you, dont lie down and try to fire back, keep moving and find cover. You might want to wait some time to make sure everyone is healed and ok, then figure out what to do next.
* Make sure you have picked right tools, when your squad has mostly short-range equipment, stick with close combat, try to avoid big open areas.

Some are good at using fireteams, but with fireteams and good dicipline squad tends to be slow at flanking and moving because SM move on SL will. SM should see themselves when they should flank and where to move at firefight, and if they do that right you will win most of the firefights. If you loose firefight, think what went wrong and learn from that.
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wookimonsta
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Re: How to win Firefights

Post by wookimonsta »

there are many ways to win a firefight.
yes, keeping up fire and flanking is one of them, but you can do many things.
if you have a grenadier, and you have a fortified enemy position, like a building in muttrah in which the enemy is dug in, make your grenadier fire his smoke grenades at the building, this will obscure the enemies view and you can move in close to finish the enemy off in cqc.

alternativly, you can also overpower the enemy with sheer firepower, not moving in on the enemies position, but finding good firing positions and killing the enemy over and over, which can cause quite a large loss of tickets.
JKRMAUI
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Re: How to win Firefights

Post by JKRMAUI »

Can't say anything really new. Get more fire on them than they get on you. Try to engage with with a terrain advantage, can make a big difference. Make sure you use everything available to you. Grenadiers are horribly under used, and can seriously break an enemy squads back.

If I feel that we are getting overwhelmed, I have every one pop smoke. Then fall back to a better position, let them come after us, into the next kill zone. Normally the smoke screws over their AR. Just set up, when the first guy comes through the smoke, pop him. Than throw nades into and past it. Than counter attack. Normally the nades and other fire kills a few of them. Just tear apart the enemy squad, get their rally. Victory.
McBumLuv
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Re: How to win Firefights

Post by McBumLuv »

Call in support. Period.

Get APCs on them, call aircraft, get as much fire support as you can.

Pretty much it's all about putting as much fire down range and keeping yourselves out of harms way. The best thing to do in this situation is to call in any available support to do the work for you.
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Wilkinson
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Re: How to win Firefights

Post by Wilkinson »

McLuv wrote:Call in support. Period.

Get APCs on them, call aircraft, get as much fire support as you can.

Pretty much it's all about putting as much fire down range and keeping yourselves out of harms way. The best thing to do in this situation is to call in any available support to do the work for you.
Armor and Air Support is always great as a second to last resort IMO.

Mainly because 1, it risks the chances of something going terribly wrong if you don't have the right people.


Usually you'd want to think about the area your in and find cover, and in .86 it's all about the AR. They are your most Lethal weapon. Suppress until he gets set up and all good to go. Then let him rip. In that time if possible I'd call for Squad Support or have 1 or 2 of my men flank. It does risk the fact of us getting split up but from what I have seen, 85-90% of the time it gets the job done.

Plus if McLuv is around, make sure he is in a tank with Spaceman. :smile:
McBumLuv
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Re: How to win Firefights

Post by McBumLuv »

Yea, well make sure the support you're calling in is trustworthy, but don't be afraid to call them in, no matter how small the target, if they are not threatened.
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helicopter.
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Re: How to win Firefights

Post by helicopter. »

I think this game is too diverse and too many situations are possible for one guide to be written how to win firefights.
What if they have anti-tank waiting for your fire support you have called in?
What if there is a second squad supporting the squad you are engaging preventing flanking maneuvers?
What if they have armor support?

Obviously, there many questions a squad leader has to be able to answer and adapt too and I think this ability will allow you to win firefights.
burghUK
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Re: How to win Firefights

Post by burghUK »

Get everyone to fire at the same spot at the same time. Had a very successful squad today with that , not one casualty and plenty kills.
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