Insurgents Stealing Hat kits/Sniper kits/ALL KITS!

[hiberNative]

stealing kits are some of the best parts of pr. if you don't want it stolen, don't use it outside main.

[dtacs]

hiberNative you do know that that hitfixer is absolutely useless?

Back on topic, its the players fault for losing them really. Imo something like the kit doesn't appear for 2 minutes after the player is 2 minutes out of main would make sense, so they at least have to wait awhile before they can get it.

[hiberNative]

hiberNative you do know that that hitfixer is absolutely useless?

no it isn't. i quote the dice person:
"These changes just graphically make it look like something different is happening."
yeah. it makes characters appear where their hitboxes actually are.

also, i don't think a dice developer will admit a flaw with his own game. i can personally vouch for getting better results with hitfixer. but go ahead, don't use it.

Battlefield HitFixer Demonstration on Vimeo

[GrimSoldier]

If you want to win that badly and gain points in a game that has no leveling system or reward system besides going "yay we won" then wow i feel sorry for you. The 5 minutes kits is awesome i love it and want to keep it.

[Zi8]

Ye they should as insurgents dont have the proper training and stance techinuqies to fire it safely.

But then again, does a insurgent know how to operate a Heavy, complex Anti-Tank Rocket, and be able to go back to his cache and reload it?

Learning to use light and heavy AT equipment is not rocket science. It can be done very quickly if necessary. I had training in army for a variant of M72 LAW (light AT) and for 112mm APILAS heavy AT (not a variant of ERYX, but something similar). I don't think Insurgents in real life have any trouble in learning to use these things. Even IEDs are harder to make than use one of these AT systems.

Reloading enemy AT equipment from caches is a bit unrealistic though.

It would be amazing to have a group like "PR Server Admins Coalition" or something along those lines, that keeps a database of idiot players who are banned. And a place to submit a complaint (with evidence) for the coalition to look at and determine if a player needs removal from the game.

PR Server Admins + moderators already have access to system like this so don't worry my friend. (And it's being used pretty much)

i think the easiset way to this is mkae the spawn time for switching team 5 minutes becasue people really shouldint be switching teams anway specilly in insurgency.

As a Server Admin, I give a BIG NO for a suggestion like this. Sometimes there are situations where admins need to change teams to check things out and 5min waiting would be too much.

[Protector]

Reloading enemy AT equipment from caches is a bit unrealistic though.

Perfect, the enemies can take the weapons but cannot reload them once out of ammo if that could be done it would be perfect!

[bad_nade]

stealing kits are some of the best parts of pr. if you don't want it stolen, don't use it outside main.

You missed the point. Stealing in this context means players who request a limited kit, go to some quiet corner of the map and then teamswitch to ins/taliban side. After respawn, they go and collect the kit they left there. I hope you don't consider that being some of the best parts of PR?

[Protector]

Like mentioned above if it could be done that the insurgents could not rearm the blufor anti kits, although they will still be able to use them they will not be able to use them over and over again.

[Grauers]

Good job posting an "How to steal american kits like HAT or LAT as an insurgent FAQ"....
Now all the asshats knows exaktly how its done...

@Protector

Why wouldn't they be able to reload? They have supply crates in their main for reloading just like the Americans does after this latest update so they should be able to get ammo from there for any weapon right?

Or did the developers of PR actualy make it impossible for Insurgents to reload blufor kits at their supply crates??

[Xbrad150X]

hold on .... why the hell would anyone need a HAT kit on ins thats so stupied , again the VBF2 players coming on and spoling this game .........

[Grauers]

hold on .... why the hell would anyone need a HAT kit on ins thats so stupied , again the VBF2 players coming on and spoling this game .........

You obviously are too stupid to understand how hard it is to be an insurgent with a tiny ak and mabe an RPG 7.. YOU HAVE TANKS FOR CHRIST SAKE.. Sure it's possible to stealth past tanks and maybe land a hit in their asses once in a while but mostly its completly impossible since they can spot you a mile away and before the insurgent can say "allah" he is dead and get no virgins.

For an insurgnet, a HAT is a one way ticket to heaven and lots of virgins!!
There is nothing allah loves more than a dead-chicken-shit-apc-whore.

HATs are VERY useful for insurgets but its also very rare for them to get one since americans never really have use for then in insurgency mode (this seems to be your point).

But you're actualy completly OffT since the thread is about an exploit some people seem to be using..

Basically
1 spawn american
2 join squad and get a sniper / engineer / Hat kit.
3 Die some where close to an insurgnet hideout (or their main base) unseen.
4 Switch team, go to where you died and get the kit and go rape some apc whoring noob.

Im not saying that this is good or that it should be done by any one since it's an exploit / cheat and not an intended part of the game...

That is basically what the thread starter was explaining in his first post so that is what this thread is about. Alteast read the first post before you start shitting words....

[McCree]

hold on .... why the hell would anyone need a HAT kit on ins thats so stupied , again the VBF2 players coming on and spoling this game .........

Errr.. maybe to destroy every enemy armor?

If you haven't noticed, its quite hard to kill a tank without a well placed mine or perfect surprise with a bombcar.

EDIT: oh i see Grauers beat me to it..

[PhiR]

There's only so many PR servers. I'm pretty sure this will stop after a few bans. There's an influx of vBF2 players with the new release and it will take some time before the new recruits figure out the spirit.

[Rissien]

McCree and Grauers, I think he means why would Coalition need a hat kit on Insurgency mode. Which they dont, granted sometimes either for base defense of the times ive seen it used on Op Archer at the castle it is dead useful, otherwise its pointless requesting it.

[Lan]

Well with the 5 minute kit thing most of the insurgency are using enemy weapons now but usually its someone requesting the kit so his mate on the other team can get it off him, ive seen it happen and ive seen people banned for it but unfortunately they arent caught every time.

[stealth420]

wow this thread got more feedback than i thought it would, havent checked it at all until today.

This is a problem in PR, Exploiting kits so you can team switch and take out enemy armor, I think the Devs will think of somthing.

Maybe a warning system to the whole team.

Example " Stealth420 has requested and recieved the HAT kit "

Or "Stealth420 has requested and recieved AA kit"

Somthing like that that could be displayed to the BLUFOR team only for the kits that are valuable assets.

[killonsight95]

i like the idea above^
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but it should be limted to limted kits like HAT,CE,Sniper,AA
and maybe local messages for things like a medic has died within 20M of you
or someone has requested the unarmed kit 10M away
the distance will probs otbe in message but its helps for in game awareness

[Teufel Eldritch]

I never liked the picking up of enemy kits period. The only kits I think you should be able to pick up are friendly kits.

[masterceo]

it kinda was back in the days, when AA kit was uber against infantry if you knew how to use it