Hawkei officially replacing the Land Rover in the ADF?

[ChiefRyza]

Hawkei military vehicle production to generate 700 jobs

While I'm sure anglomaani posted the news on this vehicle quite some time ago, I wasn't sure if it had been selected by the ADF as the Land Rover replacement. According to Thales it seems to be a pretty strong contender, is there any information on the other vehicles up for selection?

It would be a great vehicle to see in PR nonetheless But I guess if nothing is official would this mean sticking to the current Landy?

[iwillkillyouhun]

great i like the idea

[Jimbom]

We'll have to wait and see what happens Ryza, the ADF has finalised an order for ~5000 heavily modified and armoured G-Wagons which should be starting delivery in the near future. Anglo will most likely know more about it though.

Though I do think that it would be rather cool to have all of our General Service vehicles IED proof and manufactured locally.

[RoAdRa$H]

looks rugged like a vodnik?

[anglomanii]

potentially one of the most able weapons systems looking post 2014. it is a lightweight Protected Mobility Vehicle or L-PMV there are several variants already being tested. Troop Transport*, C4I-ISTAR, DFSWV, IFSWV, Ambulance, Protected supply vehicle(basically a big ute). but knowing the ADF it wont be long until this list is expanded upon, especially once the
sotg fitters get hold of them.


* this encompasses a wide variable of fit outs owing to the modular capabilities of the monocoque,

[Marines]

What kind of weapon systems are to be fitted on the Hawkei? Are there going to be any?

[anglomanii]

both manned and remote weapon stations are standard capabilities, the main turret ring is a common build unit with the Bushmaster IMV, so the potential is it could equip with any DFWS upto and including the sampson RWS with 40mm dual feed chain gun, though like the Busmaster we will more then likely only fit the 25mm gun or the new helfire II VMATS. However as this is all part of the 2014 FC brigade systems capability program, we will have to wait and see, however the currently confirmed operational weapons systems to date include, 5.56mm minimi, 7.62mm minimi, 7.62mm MAG58, 12.7mm M2 QCB HMG, 40mm AGL system all either manned or Remote station weapons systems. as well as the new javelin RWS attachment which is being trialled now with the Bushmaster.

there is also a proposal for the IFSWV 81mm/or its replacement 120mm mortar to be fited to this vehicle as an internal system, but it is currently likely to be the current externally fitted system.

[Freelance_Commando]

That advertisement made me think they well selling on the civilian market, as if we need balistic protection down here in Melbourne....

Back on topic though, that Hawkei looks pretty mean.

[anglomanii]

currently the bushmaster is the only vehicle to fulfill the ADF specifications for the PH4 land 121 program.

some light reading.
http://idr.janes.com/public/adlink/ads/1360931.pdf

[Priby]

Pics from the Eurosatory 2010.

[anglomanii]

beutiful keep em coming.

[ChiefRyza]

God I hope they get selected for the Land Rover replacement lol, they are such a fearsome looking vehicle
Also, surely the ability to build and deploy locally designed vehicles is a huge advantage?

[anglomanii]

at this point i would say tonnie could reasonably go ahead with building it, as the 3 JTLV american contenders are currently unable to be operational under 7 tonnes, this means they cannot be transported by medium lift rotary wing assets, where as the hawkei is opertional in most of it's multible configureations and even transportable internally via CH-47d

[ChiefRyza]

Do you know the other contenders in the program? I mean, the advantages of locally built vehicles would put it even further up the shortlist you would think, you wouldn't have to worry about importing spare parts etc., replacements could be brought out with ease, upgrades etc also coming to the fleet of vehicles much quicker than if they were a foreign built vehicle.

Found the article to what you mentioned anglo, sure hope we get our bloody Hawkei
http://www.bendigoadvertiser.com.au/new ... 41831.aspx

[dtacs]

Would produce quite a few jobs as well, win win.

[anglomanii]

dtacs, i believe it was worth 700 jobs in total as indicated by the Garnet report( i think thats right) and many millions to local SME's.

chief, funnily enough the hawkei and bushmaster share many common components, indeed the weapons systems and electronics are supposed to be essentially the same, except the hawkei has a greater capability to upgrade to next generation systems due to the flexible modular build.

[dtacs]

anglo you can probably answer me this, does it have protection up to 7.62mm? Whats the window protection like, and in the upper back, is that just storage space?

[anglomanii]

that really depends on the variant and the armour modules fitted.

but the basic patrol vehicle as if it has just been dropped in by CH-47 can defeat 7.62 high velocity munitions (ie: GPMG) though 12.7mm would require the 1st set of armour modules, it is however able to crew survivable with upto 20lbs of HE detonated under the vehicle or up to a standard ( i think its 10lb?) antitank mine in its basic format.

the ballistic glass i have been told was made to sustain multiple high velocity rounds and is fully able to be upgraded with add on Armour systems.


the standard patrol vehicle (pictured) has internal storage space and the provision to add both externally mounted storage modules and the ability to tow a two tonne hallmark two wheel trailer.



there are currently six variants confirmed and several others on the way.

[anglomanii]

ok so we are down to the short list for phase 4.

the contenders include the hawkei, ocelot and eagle IV

Hawkei takes centre stage at Eurosatory

Ocelot Light Tactical Vehicle & MRAP Armored Vehicle from Force Protection, Inc.

MOWAG GmbH - Products > EAGLE IV 4x4

i wonder if any of the other factions use these or intend to?
love to see a comparison?

mind you i cant see the Eagle being chosen for the simple fact, it has to shed protection just to get under the weight limit and it lack a few of the upgrade options the others have.

[Psyrus]

Hmm I hope the Hawkei wins... the other two look laaame. Going from the bushmaster to the hawkei will make the aus military so much cooler IMO