[Weapon] Carl Gustav M3 [WIP]

[Chuc]

We're currently implementing an alternate selection system for limited kits, much like the officer optics/irons. Most likely we're going to have the M72 on LAT kits, and the M3 on the HAT kits (one with the HEDP, the other with HEAT).

[TempesT]

That sounds kickass.

[anglomanii]

if it is possible to have alternate ammo loads for the M3, why dont we take advantage of that , and use it to give us four choices of ammo for the M3, use the M# as both HAT/LAT but so the HAT M3 carries, HEDP and HEAT while the LAT m3 carries HEAS and Anti personnel fragmentation ammo. this way the second rifle man can carry the m72 instead of nades, which is a little closer to the reality of ADF deployment.

[TempesT]

Sounds cool but it could be a little complex maybe... Would be cool if it was realistic like that but it might be a bit too different to the other factions even though I don't like how there has to be an equivalent for everything between the factions.

[anglomanii]

i have an uneasy feeling balance is being placed ahead, of the game play experience. i was under the impression tickets and positioning could even these things out, and it not have to be about a equal share of resources, in my opinion that's what helps set PR apart from all the other FPS out there, its also why i like being an insurgent, its about being tactically superior than the other guys. to be able to play to my strengths to deny my opponent his.

I mean this was the first game i played where i had to think HOW to use my weapons, not WHAT one to use.

but that's just my feelings and feel free to convince me otherwise if i am wrong

[TempesT]

Yeah I know where your coming from. It'd be cool to see different rounds to select but at the end of the day I suppose it isn't our decision

[Michael_Denmark]

Awesome made - great light system the GC.

[anglomanii]

PR has the SMAW right?

[Anhkhoa]

PR has the SMAW right?

No, USi has the SMAW but its really low poly.

[DavviZ]

I remember when my dad told me about his times in the army.
He told me one time: "I Remember when I shoot with the Carl Gustaf, I could feel the taste of blood when I fired it" ;D

[chambersAUS]

Nice modeling work man, would be good if they integrate it.

[anglomanii]

sorry tonnie but i am at it again,

so approval for the new sighting system has gone ahead, the main weapon hasn't changed but the new standard sight, NIGHT/THERMAL system is confirmed. SAAB Bofors is providing the system.

BAE Systems Australia has been contracted to supply the enhanced sighting system for the newly acquired M3 84mm Carl Gustaf anti-armour weapon.

The value of the contract is approximately $16 million which includes the supply of sighting systems, spares, documentation and three years of support for the system.

The enhanced sighting system includes thermal technology which provides the ADF with an increased direct-fire support capability when used with the M3 84mm Carl Gustaf anti-armour weapon.

The new sight will permit engagements during day, night and adverse conditions.

[k30dxedle]

Anglomanii, regarding your post on the previous page on the SMAW, PR did have the SMAW, but it's been gone for a long time now. The last time I remember seeing it (along with the LAW 80) was 0.4.

[anglomanii]

Anglomanii, regarding your post on the previous page on the SMAW, PR did have the SMAW, but it's been gone for a long time now. The last time I remember seeing it (along with the LAW 80) was 0.4.

yeah that was last year mate, we got past that one a while ago, thanks for the info though it's still good to know these things.

[k30dxedle]

Whoops. That'll teach me to check post dates...

[JohnnyTheIED]

jep.. most scandinavian countries uses or have used the Carl Gustav

I believe the Canadian army has a few of those as well. Dunno if they still use it now over the ERYX. I know they used to. Kinda like a medium AT with better range and power than LAW72.

The gustav is basicly a rpg with the warhead/shell inside. Like those soviet recoiless guns.

Just found some info from the Canadian Forces on it:

Ammunition:
FFV 551 HEAT - weight 3.2kg, range 700m
FFV 502 HEDP - weight 3.3kg, range 500m
TP 552 weight 3.2kg, range 700m (this is a non explosive round used for training)

Specifications:
Length: M2 113cm, M3 107cm
Weight: M2 14kg, M3 8.5kg
Crew: 2, gunner, loader
Sight: 3x Telescopic, 12 degree field of view
Entered Service: M2 1969, M3 1988

[anglomanii]

also under control, and been discussed previously, what i was refering to was the updated versions being supplied, which includes a sighting system, and after a quick chat today possibly some other small weight saving additions, but these will need to be confirmed first.

[anglomanii]

so basically we will have the upgraded M3 MAAWS in service soon, (well before the events in PR happen)

and it looks like the very latest and advanced version with all the bells and whistles.

weighing under 11kg and and with the new ammo able to be fired from relativity confined spaces, this looks like a win win, especially with the new day/night thermal sight and aimpoint just bringing out a laser unit too.

one question i do have though for the DEVS is, as there is no possibility of getting a javelin system(which is the designated Anti-Armour system for the ADF) i am assuming will we also be using this as the HAT but with the updated HEAT round (remember the m72 is a 66mm Light Direct Fire Support Weapon ((LDFSW), and NOT a LAT) i also take it due the the less destructive nature of the round (it only weighs 4.3 kg{add that to the 11kg of the launcher}) a HAT or LAT inf-man would be able to carry two rounds and hence make up for the lack of one shot kill on a heavy tank.