what's your squad leading style?

What is your squad leading style?

Authoritarian
122
34%
Delegation
134
37%
Sheep
27
8%
Can't be arsed to put effort in
5
1%
I don't squad lead
49
14%
other (post below!)
21
6%
 
Total votes: 358

ytman
Posts: 634
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Re: what's your squad leading style?

Post by ytman »

myles wrote:But its bad if your squad gets complety wiped out like then the morale starts to drop and ppl start to leave. One of the biggest things is MORALE with your squad members to have them all to work toghetour good effficntley
Yeah. Morale is incredibly important in pub squads. If they don't know you (as a leader) and you sent them into a frustrating death there is a chance that they will leave your squad.

What I do to fix this (and really just make the game less frustrating) is to say "Good job guys, nice try," or something along those lines. I mean its never 100% our fault that we lost the battle, so many variables exist that you shouldn't blame your squad unless someone was doing something really stupid, then you evicerate that one person.
Tiger1
Posts: 354
Joined: 2009-05-18 10:19

Re: what's your squad leading style?

Post by Tiger1 »

Web_cole "any decision, even a wrong one, is better than no decision at all"
Correct !
zebra.actual
Posts: 80
Joined: 2010-02-12 08:30

Re: what's your squad leading style?

Post by zebra.actual »

Authoritarian.

There are going to be few times when you're in my squad and I'm not telling you what to do or what not to do.
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PFunk
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Re: what's your squad leading style?

Post by PFunk »

I lead with authority but I also cultivate the friendly atmosphere where everyone is supposed to be working together. The one thing I constantly do aside from talk about what we're going to do or try to do is tell people to tell me stuff or do stuff but in a personally responsible way. Like "everybody should be watching behind and around, look around you and look in a direction someone isnt looking" kind of thing.

Squad Leader should have big picture in mind, and for me I give as much of it to my guys when I lead as I can so that they have some context for what I want them to do. If they know the context of what we're doing it lets them better think on their own instead of just waiting for me to tell them exactly everything to do. The best squads end up being like a group of friends with one guy (usually me) leading it and making the tough decisions.

Any other type of squad is really boring for pub play in my opinion. If the SL has to lead every bit of the way its just not efficient and for me just drags it into a chore.

I usually say "we're gonna do this" or "we're going to defend here until I decide to move". I put the situation in my hands but with them given as much detail as is necessary for them to think on their own.

However I also get impatient with people who just don't follow orders. I can be patient with people who make mistakes but people who just don't go with the flow I'll boot in a second. In my opinion a good squad (from a success versus failure in the game round POV) has to be efficient and effective and there can't be one guy ruining the flow. SL has to be a dictator every time even if its passive like just laying a marker and saying 'walk'.
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A.Fear[3|AIU]
Posts: 28
Joined: 2010-01-21 16:50

Re: what's your squad leading style?

Post by A.Fear[3|AIU] »

I use my squad a a tool,cus thats what pr is for. And i hate those noobs who dont follow SL orders,or join a squad for a sniper kit,HAT etc.
13DarkWolf
Posts: 76
Joined: 2007-06-06 16:38

Re: what's your squad leading style?

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usmcguy
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Re: what's your squad leading style?

Post by usmcguy »

Lead by example and dont tell your guys to do something you wouldnt do yourself ;)
lromero
Posts: 171
Joined: 2009-04-24 17:40

Re: what's your squad leading style?

Post by lromero »

Although i don't usually squad lead, im lucky because most of the time i've had a second in command so he would be the one with experience but i would be the one in charge, and we would ask for ideas from our squad members.
bazza_1964
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Joined: 2008-09-12 21:18

Re: what's your squad leading style?

Post by bazza_1964 »

Authoritarian.....and I WILL kick if you don't STFU....
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Berlan
Posts: 4
Joined: 2010-10-19 08:54

Re: what's your squad leading style?

Post by Berlan »

Delegation all the way man. Sometimes people need more guidance and I'm just a softie.

usmcguy has given the best decription of a great leading style.
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Haji with a Handgun
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Re: what's your squad leading style?

Post by Haji with a Handgun »

I usually run my squad like a semi-democracy. I don't shout orders, nor do I leave it up to my members to do their job without supervision. I usually tell my squad what were going to do, then ask them what they think and/or if they think an alternate route would be better.
When the fighting starts, then I start barking orders, but until then I leave it up to general consensus.
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Dirty-Lex
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Re: what's your squad leading style?

Post by Dirty-Lex »

1. I will always place the mission 1st
2. I will never accept defeat
3. I will never quit
4. I will never surrender
5. I will never leave a fallen comrade.

These are foundations of leadership

now as far as being a squad leader is concerned:

1. Command and Control
2. Understand the capabilities of your squad, and know your buddies' limits.
3. Lead by example
4. Designate a Task, Purpose and Enstate:
5. Designate and utilize your key leaders
6. Always have the "Big picture" in mind.
7. Shoot move communicate
8. 2 levels up, 1 levels down
9. Ensure to complete the over all mission 1st,
10. THINK than ACT.

I am a LEADER, I will always have a plan, I will never be afraid to make a decision, when I make a decision I will stand by it. I am an expert and a professional, I will find a way to make it happen, adapt improvise and overcome, I will always execute my task with violence of action, without hesitation. I am responsible for the lives of the Soldiers subordinate to me and thus I will never be negligent in my duty to lead them. If challenged I will not falter, I will delegate my authority to my subordinate leaders and work as a team. when in contact I will out maneuver and destroy the enemy with extreme prejudice . Shoot! Move! Communicate!

that is a little ad-lib of squad leadership
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keatsy
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Re: what's your squad leading style?

Post by keatsy »

anglomanii wrote:i role play, i say what kits i need in a squad, tell them what their role is, and i direct the basic course of action, how individuals perform their roles is up to them. if they dont perform they dont play in my squad.
yeah i follow same style it works for me but i also like to quickly move around but set up at least 1 fire base outside alot of zones were i believe will require help :lol:
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goguapsy
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Re: what's your squad leading style?

Post by goguapsy »

A lot of my "tactics" involve bunching up and running somewhere. And staying damn close. Several times, if you strafe apart 5 feet when doing this (not all the time, but sometimes in enemy territory on insurgency as BLUFOR) will get you killed, will get us discovered and will ruin the entire cache raid.

So I get mad at people that strafe away. Oh, you got killed there? Well, now you gotta wait. I don't know why the hell did you go there, but now you are gonna have to wait 'til we do what we were gonna do before.

This is different from leaving someone behind. You get whoever was trying to accomplish your orders. You punish whoever is doing it wrong.
Guys, when a new player comes, just answer his question and go on your merry way, instead of going berserk! It's THAT simple! :D

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Shovel
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Re: what's your squad leading style?

Post by Shovel »

I don't always squad lead, but my sqauad leaders have taken the sheep approach.
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Tequnique
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Re: what's your squad leading style?

Post by Tequnique »

I am trying to use all methods of leading in its rightful time...

Being an authority is important to makes things clear, to build squad discipline, focus and too keep cohesion and coordination..
If the leader is too relaxed in your style of leading - its like a 4-headed tiger hunting a herd of antelopes - all with different opinions on what is the best target...

What you want is a squad - where each unit is like the limbs of the tiger... each with different functions - but they all follow the intent of the head...

However if the head is too strict, and do not allow the body parts to follow their natural conditions - and the head orders its limbs to act beyond its natural capabilities - the whole organism fails - and is not able to hunt even the most easy pray...

The soldier should know that he is not a leader - but a tool of the leader - but he must also have confidence and freedom in his ability to carry out the leaders intent - and he must have the freedom to do so.

A soldier which is without confidence in his independent abilities that is only waiting for micromanagement - will lose the power of his adrenaline, free flow and ability to use his experience and intuition in a fire fight.
This is even more so for an aggressive squad that needs low ping reactions and intuitive responses
- On the other hand a defensive squad that fights at longer ranges covering kill zones and choke points will be more of a thinking and disciplined type - as they needs the ability to calm down and focusing on a certain area for a longer time - without straying around like they have hemorrhoids smeared in acid.

The leader must know that he is NOT primary a soldier - as he is spending his time mostly at the larger and hand handing out objectives for his tools based on the dynamics of the battlefield....

I am also a fan of SOP?s or standard operation procedures.. where the squad knows by hard certain responses done in coordinated fashion based on type of situation.
This way it takes away some of the micromanagement in a tight situation - and allows pre-plan responses to auto-pilot the situation - which minimize unnecessary chatter, confusion and mistakes during tight and stressful situations...

This way I let the SOP?s be the leader - and can free my self to do a bit of soldiers work - adding another gunpoint to the situation.

If anyone have played pro-fotball you will see that SOP?s are a large part of the game - while at the same time allows for individual freedom within certain limits ...
The team with the best balance of the two - will win.

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guru951
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Re: what's your squad leading style?

Post by guru951 »

1. Set the standards the boys are to abide by.
2. I lead it, but I am open to suggestions.
3. Speed is key
4. Making contact isn't always the wisest decision, sometimes it's better to let them enemy walk on by (figure out where they're walking from or to).
5. Make well informed decisions, don't guess too much.
6. If you hear me ask one of the squaddies "What's the shape of Italy?" than it means someone's getting the boot.
dtacs
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Re: what's your squad leading style?

Post by dtacs »

6. If you hear me ask one of the squaddies "What's the shape of Italy?" than it means someone's getting the boot.
LOL I like that one, will use that.
GeorgRavioli
Posts: 236
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Re: what's your squad leading style?

Post by GeorgRavioli »

I like to lead my squads in an authoritarian "You do what the hell I asked you to do and trust me this will work" fashion. For example, if 2 people in my squad are disagreeing with me on how to get to an objective, I will always vote for the short way, even if that means finding more contacts. I also never let people who are inexperienced with medic use it. Having an inexperienced medic is always fatal for me.

One of the things I will do to create a more friendly atmosphere is cursing at appropriate times. For example: "Holy sh*t, tank!" instead of "Oh look a tank." My Squad mates will follow suit and usually this will eventually turn into a cynical tourette's guy style of playing.
Wicca
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Re: what's your squad leading style?

Post by Wicca »

I usually have at first a delegation kind of squadleading, with a clear mind on what were doing, not what theyr taking.

Then if i see something i dont like after some time, or the way people play isnt working, i push my will on them.
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