It's been a year. Any Progress?

General discussion of the Project Reality Vietnam modification.
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Re: It's been a year. Any Progress?

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Re: It's been a year. Any Progress?

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dtacs wrote:Vietnam is being developed, but just at a very slow and frameless rate. Development was spread over PRA2, PRBF2, PR2 and PRV - basically biting off more than one can chew - hence why the developers asked the community to try to make some maps for it, in order to be a proper release and not just a gimmick.

The hype lasted until people realized that the quality of work being presented wasn't on par with PR itself, plus the lack of updates didn't keep public interest high (EX this thread). Majority, if not all of the work is being ported from Eve of Destruction 2 including assets, skins and maps. I personally would like to see some screenies which aren't lackluster or look exactly the same as EoD2.

Hopefully the project is put out soon so it can just be over and done with, or cancelled entirely so development is put into more pressing areas. Cancellation would ruffle a few feathers, but people will forget about it in mere days.

If anyone wants it to be put out as soon as possible, check out this thread and see help with the mapping. Since its 'just around the corner', mapping should be the final piece in the puzzle.
All of this is merely speculation. How can you comment on the speed of PR Vietnam's development when you do not have access to the developer forums? Everything you have posted is unfounded and merely hearsay, yet you present it as if you have a vast depth of knowledge (which you do not) or great insight into the project. Just because you feel the project should be "put out soon so it can just be over and done with, or cancelled entirely so development is put into more pressing areas" does not reflect the opinion of the communities wishes. Some people are still excited about PR:V release even if you are not, and I do not see why you should be one to pass judgment on which areas are more pressing than others. I find your post defamatory and unhelpful, and because of this I have reported this to the moderators, to see if they agree with my point of view.

Please, do stop posting such trife as if you are a member of the dev team whith a vast knowledge of how to develop a mod for BF2. You have no real hard evidence of what is occurring within our development cycle, and all of your facts have been based around the little we have released. I do feel very sympathetic for those who do give up their free time to work on PR:V. As I'm sure if they read your post, they will most likely want to throw in the towel.

At no point was your post constructive in anyway, and I do think you should put out an apology.
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Zrix
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Re: It's been a year. Any Progress?

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Personally I don't care if it's exactly like EOD2. EOD2 was awesome, and even if PR:V is just the same it will unlike EOD2 have players, and that is good enough for me. Then if there's more to it then an EOD2 port(which there is), that's just icing on the cake.
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Re: It's been a year. Any Progress?

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oh just imagine eod with 2?2km maps or... dare I say 4?4km? an eod with PR animations and weapon and vehicle handling, coupled with 3d sights...

You guys may take your time as much you need, just stick to that towel and know that I'll be looking forward to it anyhow :)
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oh just imagine eod with 2?2km maps or... dare I say 4?4km? an eod with PR animations and weapon and vehicle handling, coupled with 3d sights...
And with all those damn medics who never try to help you. Only steal your kit and run away.
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Re: It's been a year. Any Progress?

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[R-DEV]Matrox wrote:All of this is merely speculation. How can you comment on the speed of PR Vietnam's development when you do not have access to the developer forums? Everything you have posted is unfounded and merely hearsay, yet you present it as if you have a vast depth of knowledge (which you do not) or great insight into the project. Just because you feel the project should be "put out soon so it can just be over and done with, or cancelled entirely so development is put into more pressing areas" does not reflect the opinion of the communities wishes. Some people are still excited about PR:V release even if you are not, and I do not see why you should be one to pass judgment on which areas are more pressing than others. I find your post defamatory and unhelpful, and because of this I have reported this to the moderators, to see if they agree with my point of view.

Please, do stop posting such trife as if you are a member of the dev team whith a vast knowledge of how to develop a mod for BF2. You have no real hard evidence of what is occurring within our development cycle, and all of your facts have been based around the little we have released. I do feel very sympathetic for those who do give up their free time to work on PR:V. As I'm sure if they read your post, they will most likely want to throw in the towel.

At no point was your post constructive in anyway, and I do think you should put out an apology.
I don't wish for this to develop into an elaborate back and forth unless a mod deems it a valid discussion, so I'll just say that my post was perfectly within forum rules. I answered a question presented by another forum member even giving information on how PRV can be released sooner.

Reporting a post that is constructive and providing personal opinion (IE what SHOULD be on a forum) is uncalled for and irresponsible. If you or anyone would like to talk about it, lets take it to PM's, Xfire, or Mumble/Vent/TS if applicable.
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Re: It's been a year. Any Progress?

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[R-DEV]Matrox wrote:All of this is merely speculation. How can you comment on the speed of PR Vietnam's development when you do not have access to the developer forums? Everything you have posted is unfounded and merely hearsay, yet you present it as if you have a vast depth of knowledge (which you do not) or great insight into the project. Just because you feel the project should be "put out soon so it can just be over and done with, or cancelled entirely so development is put into more pressing areas" does not reflect the opinion of the communities wishes. Some people are still excited about PR:V release even if you are not, and I do not see why you should be one to pass judgment on which areas are more pressing than others. I find your post defamatory and unhelpful, and because of this I have reported this to the moderators, to see if they agree with my point of view.

Please, do stop posting such trife as if you are a member of the dev team whith a vast knowledge of how to develop a mod for BF2. You have no real hard evidence of what is occurring within our development cycle, and all of your facts have been based around the little we have released. I do feel very sympathetic for those who do give up their free time to work on PR:V. As I'm sure if they read your post, they will most likely want to throw in the towel.

At no point was your post constructive in anyway, and I do think you should put out an apology.
That just proved Dtac had something right in there :P

In what he said there is nothing wrong. If you dont want to any "speculation" to develop on these forums then you keep the community posted HOW things are... That is just common sence.

What comes to the interest of community about the pr:v I dont think there really is any anymore... There is just punch of ppl talking about it every now and then. No hype... never heard anybody to mention the mod on the server during gameplay... there are just these forums to tell it coming someday...
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Re: It's been a year. Any Progress?

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i am so looking forward to this, and the ww2 mini mod :mrgreen:
and i did hear ppl talk about this, in my squad a couple of times, but i have to say some new eye candy would be nice ;)
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angellfall wrote:That just proved Dtac had something right in there :P

In what he said there is nothing wrong. If you dont want to any "speculation" to develop on these forums then you keep the community posted HOW things are... That is just common sence.

What comes to the interest of community about the pr:v I dont think there really is any anymore... There is just punch of ppl talking about it every now and then. No hype... never heard anybody to mention the mod on the server during gameplay... there are just these forums to tell it coming someday...
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angellfall wrote:That just proved Dtac had something right in there :P

In what he said there is nothing wrong. If you dont want to any "speculation" to develop on these forums then you keep the community posted HOW things are... That is just common sence.

What comes to the interest of community about the pr:v I dont think there really is any anymore... There is just punch of ppl talking about it every now and then. No hype... never heard anybody to mention the mod on the server during gameplay... there are just these forums to tell it coming someday...
speculation normally isn't a problem, but those negative waves man. saying to the dev's that they should quit this project right in their faces is just uncalled for and not exactly the community input that helps people stay motivated.

I agree in that currently there is no hype. But I think that when released everyone will want to play pr:v. It'll definitely add to the pr experience, and put justice to eod2, a good mod that just needed some quality normalisation and gameplay changes and didn't deserve to die the way it has.
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Re: It's been a year. Any Progress?

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There is less for PR to become a full game, it would be unique MOD to cover the main conflicts of the last 80 years .. (Normandy - Vietnam & Middle East) ..

Follows the suggestion in another post left what do you think?



Leo76 wrote:Is it possible to make just new factions with new maps to add to the normal PR (with a future patch) so that people wouldn't have to download a separate mod? There could just be PR:V servers or mixed servers. Perhaps that would make it easier to get players on PR:V because even the normal PR doesn't have too many players. Just some thoughts feel free to criticize.
doggreen wrote:excellent idea! And it would add the following suggestion.

Why not launch 2 or 3 maps of PR V in the same package update PR?

We would have the following advantages

There would be no need for a specific package for client and server, for which he is integrated into the package of PR (client and server).

Problems after to find specific servers to run PR V

Being the PR V (some maps) within the package of PR is easier for Administraor server control by the criteria that will be put them in their map list.

In addition players may opinionated and reports for the gameplay is good, if there is bugs, exploits, etc. ..

They are the players who will say that the MOD is outstanting or not ..

With that, I understand that the DEV'S will save time and labor, which is very precious!

Thus they could decide whether it's worth going ahead or not with the MOD V PR and what do you think?

https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f487-p ... ost1602073
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Alek-say
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Re: It's been a year. Any Progress?

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doggreen wrote:There is less for PR to become a full game, it would be unique MOD to cover the main conflicts of the last 80 years .. (Normandy - Vietnam & Middle East) ..

Follows the suggestion in another post left what do you think?

excellent idea! And it would add the following suggestion.

Why not launch 2 or 3 maps of PR V in the same package update PR?

We would have the following advantages

There would be no need for a specific package for client and server, for which he is integrated into the package of PR (client and server).

Problems after to find specific servers to run PR V

Being the PR V (some maps) within the package of PR is easier for Administraor server control by the criteria that will be put them in their map list.

In addition players may opinionated and reports for the gameplay is good, if there is bugs, exploits, etc. ..

They are the players who will say that the MOD is outstanting or not ..

With that, I understand that the DEV'S will save time and labor, which is very precious!

Thus they could decide whether it's worth going ahead or not with the MOD V PR and what do you think?








https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f487-p ... ost1602073
Maybe, it's a good idea. But, in my opinion, the separate mod is the best variant.
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Re: It's been a year. Any Progress?

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PR:V is never coming out, face it.
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Re: It's been a year. Any Progress?

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Soldierman wrote:PR:V is never coming out, face it.
Hope... Just hope!
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Re: It's been a year. Any Progress?

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Soldierman wrote:PR:V is never coming out, face it.
NO, it will come out!

All hail PR vietnam!
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Hail Project Reality: Vietnam!
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Hail PR:Vietnam!

P.S. Waiting this awesome mod to come out. :)
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Re: It's been a year. Any Progress?

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The few developers that started this have split their time between projects, the most of which are with Arma and BF2. Once the large milestones are accomplished there should be a boost in productivity.

The latest PR is out and the hotfix too. now the Arma beta is being launched and that will take some weeks and possibly months to iron out the creases before they start doing things like posting feature lists and changelogs.

At which point from how i gather it, things will calm down a lot because PR 1.0 or whatever they are going to call it will take a bit longer than other usual releases.

AD and a handful of other guys are doing a bunch of tasks every week, i know because i can see some of the tasks, and their hands are full.

If you guys want to help, download the editor do some of the laughably simple editor tutorials and use the EOD statics to make the simplest maps you can think of. post up your pics, Rudd and other mappers will crit your work and you will be actively partisipating in the mod and will directly accellerate it's progress. I say that without any degree of sarcasm or spite, but from my perspective, many hands make small work.

For those of you who are seriously considering helping out: check out these tutorials https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f189-modding-tutorials
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Re: It's been a year. Any Progress?

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I can't blame anyone for their impatience. A year with out news... that is absurd. We should at least be given the courtesy of a smalled typed out update on the PROGRESS of it at the very least. I am very patient with games and especially mods, but an entire year or more with out news is ridiculous, and there frankly is not excuse for not hearing from the devs for so long.
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Re: It's been a year. Any Progress?

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You heard much news about Far Cry 3 for example? I dont think so.

It will come out when its ready.
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