Falklands initial modding topic

General discussion of the Project Reality Falklands modification.
Ramjali
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Re: Falklands initial modding topic

Post by Ramjali »

Yay, finally a chance for a Valid suggestion........

Any chance of gurkha skins??? As they were one of the forces there.
Maybe as a specialists due to their stamina and mountain mobility???
I know making new models are hard, but can't the modders reduce height of one of the character models then change the face??? Then replace the knife skin with the khukuri skin?

Also for some people intrested, the deadliest warrior show, made a match between "Gurkhas VS French foriegn legion". Watch the show and you'll be suprised of the age of the gurkha in the show.

Watch Deadliest Warrior - Season 3 Episode 9: French Foreign Legion vs. Gurkhas
PLODDITHANLEY
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Re: Falklands initial modding topic

Post by PLODDITHANLEY »

Tricky, what only have ghurkas on PRF or just have a few skins that are ghurkas so you'd end up with caucasian soldiers alongside oriental types.

It'd have to be all or nothing so I doubt it.

Best to use what we already have the RM model. Plus they were far more numerous out there.
sapper1893
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Re: [Mini-mod] PR:BF2 Falklands

Post by sapper1893 »

PoisonBill wrote:
Spoiler for Battle of Goose Green:
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According to this image from wiki, there's supposed to be an airfield northwest of Goose Green, however I can't find any such thing on Google earth or other images on Google earth. I hate it when things just, disappear :D

Spoiler for Espanol info:
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Found this image! :O
Spoiler for mother of god:
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Since the battle took 2 days and involved fighting in both Darwin and Goose Green, Goose Green being the main battle, it seems unuseful to portray Darwin in a smaller map.
There are various airstrips on FI. Some would have been there during the conflict. I did visit Pebble Island where Argentinian Pucara's were based before being taken out by special forces.
alexandrei07
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Re: Falklands initial modding topic

Post by alexandrei07 »

[R-DEV]Rhino wrote:Would be good encase there is anything I can use :)

Cheers.
I would need an FTP that has 3.5 GB free, thanks
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Re: Falklands initial modding topic

Post by Rhino »

only upload the game files and not .psds etc. Or remove all the normal PR files and only upload the new files. Don't need the maps also.
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alexandrei07
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Re: Falklands initial modding topic

Post by alexandrei07 »

[R-DEV]Rhino wrote:only upload the game files and not .psds etc. Or remove all the normal PR files and only upload the new files. Don't need the maps also.
ok, no problem
RazoR41
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Re: Falklands initial modding topic

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It appears my post was deleted, :l anyway i am looking foward to this mod :)
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Re: Falklands initial modding topic

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RazoR41 wrote:It appears my post was deleted, :l anyway i am looking foward to this mod :)
You mean this one? https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f562-p ... ost1761631

Still there :)
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Re: Falklands initial modding topic

Post by RazoR41 »

'[R-DEV wrote:Rhino;1761880']You mean this one? https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f562-p ... ost1761631

Still there :)

:o ops:

I'm gonna have to check next time
alexandrei07
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Re: Falklands initial modding topic

Post by alexandrei07 »

I left several posts made ​​by our members, the reference pictures corresponding to the vehicles used during the conflict.

Camion / Truck: ImageShack? - Online Photo and Video Hosting

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Dejo algunas screenshots para que puedan ir viendo las skins de algunos de los vehiculos que ya son "usables" en el P.R.
Si tienen alguna sugerencia mejor ya que me va a ayudar a mejorar las skins.

Dejo imagenes con su referencia real.

Espero les gusten.



A4
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Mirage 3
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C-130
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Tambien version AC-130 , ya veremos...
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MD500 Armado
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MD500 de Transporte
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UH-1 con FnMag
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M113 con 50.cal
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LVTP7
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Interior
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M113 M548
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VCA 155 Palmaria
we are checking if they came to be used or whether they came to the islands ..
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Saludos! ;)

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Lechu: Nono , no digo de resucitar muertos solo es una opcion el LVPT-7 , creo que ya estan los reemplazos (AAV algo) pero me parecio interesante hacer un poco de historia y apoyar la idea de tener anfibios al menos en el mapa PA.

Te dejo la prueba del ultimo skin del B212

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Tambien active el pr_supply_crate_ar

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si, es gris oscuro este, el de la armada es verde
el problema es que la iluminacion del mapa no sirve para ver detalles, probalos en otro mapa
lo voy a aclarar un poco igual, o no?

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Lechu te dejo lo ultimo ahora si se ve bolohusss, pero que raro que lo tome con la imagen en layers y no flatteneada ..no?

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Este despues de arduas negociaciones con preloader...es el heli de transporte para la FA
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MD 500 y MD 500 D/E
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otro esquema
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este es de gendarmeria
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Bell212 /N1

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En un rato subo del resto de los vehiculos


source:

http://www.fuerzaaerea.mil.ar/conflicto ... antes.html

Project Reality en Espa?ol - RealityMod Latinoam?rica
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Rhino
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Re: Falklands initial modding topic

Post by Rhino »

cool, do you have a name for that truck?

Also a lot of thous vehicles / skins are incorrect for 1982 falklands, as the version of the A-4 you've done a skin for is a different version from that used in the falklands, with a hump on the back (which the model doesn't have either), same goes for the mirage, modern grey skin etc.

But cheers anyways, the name of that truck would be very useful for future development :D

EDIT: after a quick google search by image search turns out to be a Mercedes-Benz MB 1112 which also cross checks with this page after googling that name with around 100 of them deployed to the Falklands :D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentine_ ... klands_War

Added to the design plan, cheers! :D
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PLODDITHANLEY
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Re: Falklands initial modding topic

Post by PLODDITHANLEY »

My god Rhino you make life hard for yourself. I would of thought that lot (assuming the guys that made them let you use them) would have been a gold mine for PRF.

I'm all for realism but would've thought it's OK to initially put in the wrong colour Mirage or wrong model A4 as a place holder rather than hold up the whole thing?

Rather than have a two year wait like PRV I think most players could live with (IMHO) minor details like that.

But you, of course, are da boss
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Re: Falklands initial modding topic

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The correct A-4C skin is already in the works on the same A-4 model (from EOD) apart from massively fixed up by me a week ago with bran new lods, cols and loads of smoothing fixes etc (same goes for the mirage in fact which I did the week before that, apart from that model comes from AIX and I have permission to use it).

Mirage IIIEA I already have a better place holder skin from AIX, just needs Argentine flags put on it instead of MEC but still not very accurate skin, just closer than the grey one above.

(A)C-130, ignoring all the guns sticking out the side is from DCON, which has never, ever wanted to trade with us and forgetting that part, really wouldn't serve any purpose for this map as it was mainly a transport plane, don't need that due to spawn points etc and was also a retrofit bomber, which only managed to sink an American tanker it thought was a Brit one.

MD500 Armado, I don't believe was used in the Falklands? Don't see a spot for it ingame if it was.

UH-1H, already got a skin for that from Zonda :)

M113, don't believe it was used in the Falklands?

LVTP7, pics in the topic are of the POE2 one, not the PR AAVP7A1 which Zonda has already done a skin for :)

M548, don't think it was used in the Falklands?

VCA 155 Palmaria, pretty sure it wasn't used in the falklands and no real place for it in PR.


And don't worry, this isn't going to be the same release time frame PR:V was :p
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alexandrei07
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Re: Falklands initial modding topic

Post by alexandrei07 »

[R-DEV]Rhino wrote:The correct A-4C skin is already in the works on the same A-4 model (from EOD) apart from massively fixed up by me a week ago with bran new lods, cols and loads of smoothing fixes etc (same goes for the mirage in fact which I did the week before that, apart from that model comes from AIX and I have permission to use it).
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- Fuerza Area Argentina
Mirage IIIEA I already have a better place holder skin from AIX, just needs Argentine flags put on it instead of MEC but still not very accurate skin, just closer than the grey one above.
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- Fuerza Area Argentina
(A)C-130, ignoring all the guns sticking out the side is from DCON, which has never, ever wanted to trade with us and forgetting that part, really wouldn't serve any purpose for this map as it was mainly a transport plane, don't need that due to spawn points etc and was also a retrofit bomber, which only managed to sink an American tanker it thought was a Brit one.
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- Fuerza Area Argentina


Yes, many of the skins made ​​them more current, so I put this page with skins declared by the Argentine Air Force in Malvinas 1982. - Fuerza Area Argentina

Then I answer your queries
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alexandrei07
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Re: Falklands initial modding topic

Post by alexandrei07 »

[R-DEV]Rhino wrote: MD500 Armado, I don't believe was used in the Falklands? Don't see a spot for it ingame if it was.
yes, not used, so you can verify that the link I put to the FAA

Do not forget the IA58 Pucara :mrgreen:

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http://www.fuerzaaerea.mil.ar/conflicto/pucara.html
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Rodrijandro
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Re: Falklands initial modding topic

Post by Rodrijandro »

don?t forget

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"El Blindado de Malvinas


Sesenta unidades blindadas Panhard AML H 90, fueron adquiridas por el Ej?rcito Argentino en 1977. Fabricadas en 1960 por la empresa francesa Panhard pose?an como caracter?stica principal su f?cil maniobrabilidad, su relativa liviandad (peso en orden de combate de 5,5 toneladas) y su gran autonom?a (entre 500 a 600 kms). Era capaz de desarrollar en caminos pavimentados unos 100 kms por hora. Con una tripulaci?n de tres hombres, estaba bien armado con ca?on DEFA 921 de Cal 90 mm y 2 AA 52 Amet Cal 7,62.
Doce de estos blindados, de los cu?les ocho eran del Destacamento de Exploraci?n de Caballer?a Blindada 181 fueron a las Islas Malvinas. "


El Escuadron Olvidado (Panhard en Malvinas)

http://www.malvinasonline.com.ar/index.php/el-conflicto/articulos/articulos-posteriores/141-los-vehiculos-blindados-en-la-guerra-de-malvinas.html
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Re: Falklands initial modding topic

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alexandrei07 wrote:yes, not used, so you can verify that the link I put to the FAA

Do not forget the IA58 Pucara :mrgreen:

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Ye while the Pucara would be pretty cool, got no runway on the mainland long enough with the maps scale to launch it from and it would also get base raped to **** (although they where in the war too :p )
Rodrijandro wrote:don?t forget

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Ye the Panhard AML 60/90 would be kinda cool, would need a model being made for it thou from scratch and kinda low priority as a result.

Added it to the design plan as ye, it would be nice to have it in at some point :)

EDIT: although seems Bao is working on one for the ARF: https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f391-a ... 0-wip.html
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Re: Falklands initial modding topic

Post by PLODDITHANLEY »

I thought the Pucaras used a grass strip, no place or space for that anywhere?

But yes after people played with them initially they'd just end up as ticket expensive statics unless all the harriers were downed.

I've seen at least one Puma photo in the Falklands think there were few there, not forgetting their Chinook 'donated' a windscreen to the sole Brit one.
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Re: Falklands initial modding topic

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PLODDITHANLEY wrote:I thought the Pucaras used a grass strip, no place or space for that anywhere?

But yes after people played with them initially they'd just end up as ticket expensive statics unless all the harriers were downed.
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Thous 3 locations where used as airbases for Pucaras. Stanley in the top right is too small ingame, Goose Green is also way, way too small. Only one that could possibly be used is Pebble Island in the top left but very exposed and as a result of that did come under heavy attack from both SAS raids and harriers in r/l before the brits even landed so was hardly used, but if we got a Pucara model I would be tempted to put one or two there, adding in some AA defense etc too but is still really short at 250m max, around 1/2 the length of the airfield on Battle of Ia Drang so ye, would be slightly gey lift settings for it :p

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Players could do there own little SAS raids on it too hehe :D

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PLODDITHANLEY wrote:I've seen at least one Puma photo in the Falklands think there were few there, not forgetting their Chinook 'donated' a windscreen to the sole Brit one.
Ye, Argies did have a few pumas and Chinooks but don't want to give the Argies too much flexibility with air transport as they didn't really use them during the conflict for anything much more than SAR.
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Re: Falklands initial modding topic

Post by AquaticPenguin »

Maybe it would be best to just increase the size of pebble island if the pucara's were to be put in, the map wouldn't be to scale, but that's a small sacrifice for the air support it would give.

On a different note, Until recently I hadn't realised there was a small harrier airstrip set up on the islands. Linky for some interesting reading.
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