suggestions of ROKA/ROKMC faction

[KR_Halo]

KM900 light armor(Fiat 6614)





simple model for bf2...

Sep.5 - Started Unwrap, Texturing, K-311; Dodge Jeep

[Hitman.2.5]

Why not add NK forces too or instead? it would be funny fighting a keystone cops faction.

[Tyso3]

Firstly, North Korea has one of the largest militaries in the world, so who the hell are you calling 'Militia' lol.

Secondly, Even if they were of a lower calibre grade, that doesnt mean much in PR (this is why we love this game).


On some maps, the BLUFOR has Main Battle tanks, Jets, CAS, APC's and yet still loses to a bunch of guys with ak's and rpg-7's.

[(kor)Leopard]

Firstly, North Korea has one of the largest militaries in the world, so who the hell are you calling 'Militia' lol.

Secondly, Even if they were of a lower calibre grade, that doesnt mean much in PR (this is why we love this game).


On some maps, the BLUFOR has Main Battle tanks, Jets, CAS, APC's and yet still loses to a bunch of guys with ak's and rpg-7's.

There are lots of opinions in Korean pr community too. And personally, I would like to see dprk in pr.

[(kor)Leopard]

Why not add NK forces too or instead? it would be funny fighting a keystone cops faction.

I would like to see dprk in pr(personally). But there are no hands for making dprk faction. If theres another guy can make dprk faction, that will be good I think

[KR_Halo]

Firstly, North Korea has one of the largest militaries in the world, so who the hell are you calling 'Militia' lol.

Secondly, Even if they were of a lower calibre grade, that doesnt mean much in PR (this is why we love this game).


On some maps, the BLUFOR has Main Battle tanks, Jets, CAS, APC's and yet still loses to a bunch of guys with ak's and rpg-7's.

Just large, that's all

I'm hope to see the NK army in PR, but no one can speak north korea dialect in our community

[Death!]

Just large, that's all

Huehuehue! I sense a lot of "SOUTH KOREA STRONK!!1!!" in you.

Anyway, nobody will notice that Un's boys got no north korean accent on the game...

[KR_Halo]

Huehuehue! I sense a lot of "SOUTH KOREA STRONK!!1!!" in you.

Anyway, nobody will notice that Un's boys got no north korean accent on the game...

PLA is best army in Asia, you know.

[KR_Halo]

DPRK's 2nd generation MBT

[Forgotten]

Have you got any design plan?

[Chernobog95]

DPRK's 2nd generation MBT

Its 3rd generation unless you believe that K1-88 is 2nd generation tank too, even in 2002 Chosun Ilbo when this tank was known under name M2002 reported that performance are comparable to T-90.

I apologize for bringing this dead threat alive. South Koreans aren't reliable when it comes to North Korean military, I am aware of "tin can" jokes from ROK hobbyist military community.

[camo]

performance are comparable to T-90.

(x) doubt

[Chernobog95]

(x) doubt

I see now that by default notifications are off.

Here's analysis by German tanker of M2002/Pokpung-ho/Chonma-216's armor.
Source
The thickness of turret front cheeks is 600mm and that is not counting 200-300mm of applique armor that are on turret cheeks which is overall thickness is 800 to 900mm.

North Korean late 1990's FCS in joint development with Syria is regards of Fire Control System superior/more modern than one used in original M1 Abrams that was being used up to M1A1HA variant. In comparison to Volna FCS that was used in T-62M, vastly superior.

[camo]

I see now that by default notifications are off.

Here's analysis by German tanker of M2002/Pokpung-ho/Chonma-216's armor.
Source
The thickness of turret front cheeks is 600mm and that is not counting 200-300mm of applique armor that are on turret cheeks which is overall thickness is 800 to 900mm.

Not that it matters but SH.M.M isn't a tanker afaik, though he does do a fair bit of research (and twice as much time having arguments on various forums). But regardless the armour make up and quality isn't really worth arguing about, any source on it will be sketchy at best and guesswork at worst.

North Korean late 1990's FCS in joint development with Syria is regards of Fire Control System superior/more modern than one used in original M1 Abrams that was being used up to M1A1HA variant. In comparison to Volna FCS that was used in T-62M, vastly superior.

An FCS with manual inputs vs an FCS that does all that automatically plus leads moving targets with thermal imagers doesn't really sound equal or better.

I'm sure the M2002 is great given the very restrictive conditions the North Koreans place themselves under but i'm struggling to see anything it might do better than a T-90.

[Chernobog95]

I am not sure why I am not getting notifications, is it email only?

Not that it matters but SH.M.M isn't a tanker afaik, though he does do a fair bit of research (and twice as much time having arguments on various forums). But regardless the armour make up and quality isn't really worth arguing about, any source on it will be sketchy at best and guesswork at worst.

Considering how well informed he seems to be I guessed he was a tanker.

Something is better than absolutely nothing to make judgment on, images are good way of determining at very least the size of the vehicle. Being that the M2002 was blown up by ATGM and there wasn't gun, not sure accidentally or intentionally revealed the thickness of armor that M2002 has.

An FCS with manual inputs vs an FCS that does all that automatically plus leads moving targets with thermal imagers doesn't really sound equal or better.

Yes, if we ignore that both have option to manual inputs and both do automatically what other's doesn't.

leads moving targets with thermal imagers

I would't be surprised if these features you mention are from M1A1D and its derivatives like Australian M1A1 AIM series, though that seems to be Hunter-Killer which not even latest M1 Abrams variants have unless I am confusing it with something else.

FCS of M1 to M1A1HA doesn't automatically into calculation readings from barometer for air pressure nor thermometer for air temperature as evident by MANUAL above those unlke on that have AUTO above it.

From very article about the FCS's "manual inputs" of jointly developed FCS:

The computer updates the output on the periscope. The periscope has also been modified for this purpose. The whole process is automatic and requires no human input other than the optional wind measurements ,with the ability to input in case any sensor was damaged.

This is so "manual", also calculator screen versus digital screen.

I'm sure the M2002 is great given the very restrictive conditions the North Koreans place themselves under but i'm struggling to see anything it might do better than a T-90.

I am struggling to find where I said it that it was better than T-90, but you're free to point out.

[camo]

Fair point, I'd assumed the Abrams would automatically account for wind and humidity on the fly but am now led to believe it's mainly for bore sighting.

As for T-90 for whatever reason i thought you'd said it was better, but seeing as you said comparable I'm still probably gonna disagree.

[Chernobog95]

Fair point, I'd assumed the Abrams would automatically account for wind and humidity on the fly but am now led to believe it's mainly for bore sighting.

M1 Abrams FCS from 1980 up to M1A1HA which was mid/late 1990's, not hard to beat that.

As for T-90 for whatever reason i thought you'd said it was better, but seeing as you said comparable I'm still probably gonna disagree.

Depends on which variant of T-90 as original T-90 is just rebrand of T-72B2 or B3 as T-72's that Iraq had destroyed the reputation of tank due to export models being subpar and some included "monkey" models that were stripped of many features that make up 3rd generation tank. Lets not forget shit-tier APFSDS that Soviets exported which were training rounds that had no chance of penetrating M1A1's front even at point blank.

T-90/T-72B2-3 FCS is comparable to that of original M1 Abrams as Soviets were behind in transistor electronics, best they could at the time for mass production digital processors was something like Zilog Z80.

North Koreans on the other hand never had to worry about APFSDS munition due to having one of the largest tungsten deposits and mines, later with nuclear program they have plenty of depleted uranium to use for APFSDS or even as armor.

[KianaKaslana]

Looking forward to this fictional second Korean War.

And yes, in Project Reality...