FPS Issues

[Minn]

Hi all,

My friend recently introduced me to Project Reality because of my interest in games like Arma but my inability to run games like Arma. My computer ran BF2 just fine (was getting 50-60 FPS), but as soon as I tried to immerse myself into PR with the co-op mode I was getting as low as 6 FPS and only as high as 18 FPS.

My graphics drive is the AMD Radeon(TM) R5 Graphics drive, which I've heard is pretty good for gaming. However, this was the drive that was built-in with the computer. My friend informed me that this may be causing my issues because it's something known as an integrated graphics card. I'm not too well-versed with computer jargon, so I just took his word.

I tried adjusting all display settings to low, but still to no avail. Is there anything I can do to improve my performance, or will I have to take another option?

EDIT: Just to clarify, I'm using the standalone addition.

[DesmoLocke]

Please paste your system specifications in your next post, so we can better help you.

Like this.

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System Information
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  Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate  (6.1.7601)
      Architecture: 64-bit
   Current Culture: English (United States)
       Motherboard: ASUSTeK Computer INC. P6T
         Processor: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU           X5660  @ 2.80GHz (Physical: 6, Logical: 12)
            Memory: 8.00 GB
      DIMM Modules: DIMM2: 2.00 GB @ 1066 MHz
                    DIMM3: 2.00 GB @ 1066 MHz
                    DIMM4: 2.00 GB @ 1066 MHz
                    DIMM5: 2.00 GB @ 1066 MHz
         Page File: 7.99 GB
    .NET Framework: 4.5, Runtime: 4.0.30319.18063

Display Information
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 Display Device(s): Generic PnP Monitor on NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780
                    Dell 2407WFP (Digital) on NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780
   Display Mode(s): 1920 x 1080 (32 bit) @ 120 Hz
                    1920 x 1200 (32 bit) @ 59 Hz
    Driver Version: 9.18.13.4709 (347.09)
    Display Memory: 3.00 GB
     Multisampling: 2, 4, 8
               DPI: 96 (100%)

Audio Information
-----------------
  Primary Playback: Speakers (Sound Blaster ZxR)
 Primary Recording: Microphone (Sound Blaster ZxR)
  Open AL Renderer: Software
               EAX: True
           EAX 1.0: False
           EAX 2.0: True
           EAX 3.0: True
           EAX 4.0: True
           EAX 5.0: True
             X-RAM: False

Disk Information
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      Install Path: H:\Project Reality BF2
                    Free: 530.65 GB, Total: 931.51 GB, FS: NTFS, SSD: False
          Mod Path: H:\Project Reality BF2\mods\pr
                    Free: 530.65 GB, Total: 931.51 GB, FS: NTFS, SSD: False
     Profiles Path: C:\Users\XXXXXXX\Documents\ProjectReality\Profiles
                    Free: 2.93 GB, Total: 111.69 GB, FS: NTFS, SSD: True
    Update DL Path: C:\Users\XXXXXXX\AppData\Local\Project Reality\Project Reality BF2\Downloads
                    Free: 2.93 GB, Total: 111.69 GB, FS: NTFS, SSD: True
   Update Log Path: C:\Users\XXXXXXX\AppData\Local\Project Reality\Project Reality BF2\UpdateLogs
                    Free: 2.93 GB, Total: 111.69 GB, FS: NTFS, SSD: True

Game Information
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    Installed Mods: pr
       Current Mod: pr
           Version: Standalone - 1.0
        PR Version: 1.3.1.0
          Language: english
   Debug Available: False
     Large Address: True
Supported Hardware: None

Profile Information
-------------------
      Profile 0001: PRvetDesmoLocke
              Type: Online
 Last Used Profile: True
        View Intro: True
        Fullscreen: True
      Display Mode: 1920x1080@120Hz
Display Mode Valid: True
   Graphics Scheme: High
     Multisampling: 8x
             VSync: False
   Terrain Quality: High
   Effects Quality: High
  Geometry Quality: High
   Texture Quality: High
  Lighting Quality: High
   Dynamic Shadows: High
    Dynamic Lights: High
 Texture Filtering: High
    Audio Provider: Hardware
    Provider Valid: True
     Audio Quality: High
               EAX: True

A How-To Guide to Post Your PC System Specifications

Step 1: Launch Project Reality.

Step 2: Click on "Support"



Step 3. The Project Reality: BF2 Support window will pop up. Click on "Copy to Clipboard".



Step 4: Paste it into your forum post on the PR forums.

Step 5: Keep an eye on your help thread. Hopefully, a helpful PR forum user will be able to help you.

[Minn]

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System Information
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  Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (6.3.9600)
      Architecture: 64-bit
   Current Culture: English (United States)
       Motherboard: Hewlett-Packard 22CD
         Processor: AMD A8-6410 APU with AMD Radeon R5 Graphics     (Physical: 4, Logical: 4)
            Memory: 8.00 GB
      DIMM Modules: Bottom: 8.00 GB @ 800 MHz
         Page File: 7.00 GB
    .NET Framework: 4.5.1, Runtime: 4.0.30319.34014

Display Information
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 Display Device(s): Generic PnP Monitor on AMD Radeon(TM) R5 Graphics
   Display Mode(s): 1366 x 768 (32 bit) @ 60 Hz
    Driver Version: 14.501.1003.0
    Display Memory: 1024.00 MB
     Multisampling: 2, 4, 8
               DPI: 96 (100%)

Audio Information
-----------------
  Primary Playback: Speaker/HP (Realtek High Defini
 Primary Recording: Microphone (Realtek High Defini
  Open AL Renderer: Software
               EAX: True
           EAX 1.0: False
           EAX 2.0: True
           EAX 3.0: False
           EAX 4.0: False
           EAX 5.0: False
             X-RAM: False

Disk Information
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      Install Path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Project Reality\Project Reality BF2
                    Free: 479.43 GB, Total: 639.31 GB, FS: NTFS, SSD: False
          Mod Path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Project Reality\Project Reality BF2\mods\pr
                    Free: 479.42 GB, Total: 639.31 GB, FS: NTFS, SSD: False
     Profiles Path: C:\Users\apfan_000\Documents\ProjectReality\Profiles
                    Free: 479.42 GB, Total: 639.31 GB, FS: NTFS, SSD: False
    Update DL Path: C:\Users\apfan_000\AppData\Local\Project Reality\Project Reality BF2\Downloads
                    Free: 479.42 GB, Total: 639.31 GB, FS: NTFS, SSD: False
   Update Log Path: C:\Users\apfan_000\AppData\Local\Project Reality\Project Reality BF2\UpdateLogs
                    Free: 479.42 GB, Total: 639.31 GB, FS: NTFS, SSD: False

Game Information
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    Installed Mods: pr
       Current Mod: pr
           Version: Standalone - 1.0
        PR Version: 1.3.1.0
          Language: english
   Debug Available: False
     Large Address: True
Supported Hardware: None

Profile Information
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      Profile 0001: Minn
              Type: Online
 Last Used Profile: True
        View Intro: False
        Fullscreen: True
      Display Mode: 1024x768@60Hz
Display Mode Valid: True
   Graphics Scheme: Low
     Multisampling: Off
             VSync: False
   Terrain Quality: Low
   Effects Quality: Low
  Geometry Quality: Low
   Texture Quality: Low
  Lighting Quality: Low
   Dynamic Shadows: Low
    Dynamic Lights: Low
 Texture Filtering: Low
    Audio Provider: Software
    Provider Valid: True
     Audio Quality: Low
               EAX: True

I did more research into the topic and it turns out I had everything mixed up. I hadn't found a solid definition of integrated graphics, so I assumed it was just the graphics card that came built into the computer. However, that's obviously wrong. I have the AMD Radeon R5 that works separately and an Intel processor (can't remember the name) that would run as integrated.

The problem I was having was forcing Project Reality into running on my dedicated graphics rather than the Intel. My Catalyst Control Center didn't have the option for switchable graphics, so I went to the Internet to see how to fix this. One thing led to another, and I made a system restore so that I could attempt to uninstall my graphics cards entirely and re-install them. Neither of those worked, so I simply re-installed from the HP Support center, but as a result I only have my Radeon R5 GPU and not the integrated. By this, I mean that the Device Manager only lists the Radeon R5 GPU, rather than the R5 AND the Intel that I had prior. I was under the impression that the driver update I installed from HP would include both, but again only the Radeon shows up on the Device Manager.

It's a stupid thing, really. I'm not great with computers.

EDIT:

Spoiler for Catalyst Control Center:

These are the settings I applied on Catalyst Control Center, but they still did not achieve any improvement in FPS.

[DC_K]

this is a laptop? have you set your power settings to high performance? open run or search for powercfg.cpl and select high performance

is there a reason why you aren't using your native resolution?

Display Mode(s): 1366 x 768 (32 bit) @ 60 Hz

but your profile:

Display Mode: 1024x768@60Hz

[DesmoLocke]

...My computer ran BF2 just fine (was getting 50-60 FPS), but as soon as I tried to immerse myself into PR with the co-op mode I was getting as low as 6 FPS and only as high as 18 FPS.

My graphics drive is the AMD Radeon(TM) R5 Graphics drive, which I've heard is pretty good for gaming...

I tried adjusting all display settings to low, but still to no avail. Is there anything I can do to improve my performance, or will I have to take another option?

You are on a laptop correct?

You have a AMD A8-6410 processor with AMD Radeon R5 integrated graphics meaning it's on the same chip. Today's integrated graphics are able to run older games like BF2 on low without too much trouble. However, PR is very CPU intensive with it's higher player count and large maps. I'm afraid your laptop is performing as it should. Sorry.

Review of AMD Radeon R5 graphics
(scroll to the bottom for game benchmarks)

[Minn]

EDIT: Didn't see the link at the bottom.

EDIT2: That link says my GPU is integrated, but my computer itself said that I had over 1,000 MB of memory left on my GPU. In addition, I had two entire GPU units (the Radeon R5 and an Intel), and the computer was running off of the intel. Is it possible that my computer simply has two integrated chips, or is that Intel GPU that I had the dedicated graphics card I thought the R5 was?

EDIT3: Here is the info on my VRAM:

Spoiler for VRAM info:

EDIT4: I've come to terms with the fact that I probably won't run Project Reality efficiently with the current GPU units I have. Does anyone have any recommended Nvidia GPUs that could run this game smoothly? What are the general prices of these?

[PLODDITHANLEY]

There is no sign of a non CPU graphics card Nvidia or other anywhere, it is possible that your settings are not allowing it to be used.

However it seem that your 15" HP does not have another GPU, basically very very hard/impossible to upgrade your machine.
However Alienware have made an external enclosure for GPU.

But a decent gaming computer can be cheap( thanks steeps iirc):

[killen]

Hi guys, i am having FPS drop, from 100 to 40 in the bad case (it happens with every map, when it's crowded)
My rig is I5 2400, Radeon HD7770 GHz ed. and 8gb of rams.
Tomorrow morning i am going to post you my complete system specs.
Thank you guys

[killen]

System Information
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Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional (6.1.7601)
Architecture: 64 bit
Current Culture: Italian (Italy)
Motherboard: ASUSTeK Computer INC. P8H61 PRO
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2400 CPU @ 3.10GHz (Physical: 4, Logical: 4)
Memory: 8,00 GB
DIMM Modules: DIMM0: 4,00 GB @ 1333 MHz
DIMM1: 4,00 GB @ 1333 MHz
Page File: 7,98 GB
.NET Framework: 4.5+ Release Build: 379893, Runtime: 4.0.30319.34209

Display Information
-------------------
Display Device(s): Monitor generico Plug and Play on AMD Radeon R7 200 Series
Display Mode(s): 1920 x 1080 (32 bit) @ 60 Hz
Driver Version: 14.502.1014.0
Display Memory: 1024,00 MB
Multisampling: 2, 4, 8
DPI: 96 (100%)

Audio Information
-----------------
Primary Playback: Altoparlanti (Realtek High Defi
Primary Recording: Microfono (7- USB Camera-B4.09.
Open AL Renderer: Software
EAX: True
EAX 1.0: False
EAX 2.0: True
EAX 3.0: False
EAX 4.0: False
EAX 5.0: False
X-RAM: False

Disk Information
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Install Path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Project Reality\Project Reality BF2
Free: 13,80 GB, Total: 465,76 GB, FS: NTFS, SSD: False
Mod Path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Project Reality\Project Reality BF2\mods\pr
Free: 13,80 GB, Total: 465,76 GB, FS: NTFS, SSD: False
Profiles Path: C:\Users\Francesco\Documents\ProjectReality\Profiles
Free: 13,80 GB, Total: 465,76 GB, FS: NTFS, SSD: False
Update DL Path: C:\Users\Francesco\AppData\Local\Project Reality\Project Reality BF2\Downloads
Free: 13,80 GB, Total: 465,76 GB, FS: NTFS, SSD: False
Update Log Path: C:\Users\Francesco\AppData\Local\Project Reality\Project Reality BF2\UpdateLogs
Free: 13,80 GB, Total: 465,76 GB, FS: NTFS, SSD: False

Game Information
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Installed Mods: pr, pr_ww2
Current Mod: pr
Version: Standalone - 1.0
PR Version: 1.3.1.0
Language: english
Debug Available: False
Large Address: True
Supported Hardware: None

Profile Information
-------------------
Profile 0001: killen
Type: Online
Last Used Profile: True
View Intro: True
Fullscreen: True
Display Mode: 1920x1080@60Hz
Display Mode Valid: True
Graphics Scheme: Custom
Multisampling: 8x
VSync: False
Terrain Quality: High
Effects Quality: High
Geometry Quality: High
Texture Quality: High
Lighting Quality: High
Dynamic Shadows: Off
Dynamic Lights: Off
Texture Filtering: High
Audio Provider: Software
Provider Valid: True
Audio Quality: High
EAX: True

i tried to switch off dynamic shadows and lights to see if my framerate would increase...but it's not
BTW this says that my GPU is R7 200 series...that is because, i downloaded the driver built for my card but then it says R7 200 blabla instead of HD7770; but it is correct!
probably you can help me out of this (i am bit stupid with drivers)

[DesmoLocke]

Your drivers are fine killen if they're working for you in PR and other games.

PR is very CPU dependent because the old Refractor 2 game engine is single threaded and only uses one CPU core. Once the server gets near capacity and you look in the direction of most people, your FPS will drop. It happens to nearly everyone. There is nothing really to be done.

I suggest you check out Squad as it is the spiritual successor to PR built on the Unreal Engine 4. It will better utilize today's gaming hardware and hopefully offer the same PR gameplay on a modern game engine.

[killen]

Your drivers are fine killen if they're working for you in PR and other games.

PR is very CPU dependent because the old Refractor 2 game engine is single threaded and only uses one CPU core. Once the server gets near capacity and you look in the direction of most people, your FPS will drop. It happens to nearly everyone. There is nothing really to be done.

I suggest you check out Squad as it is the spiritual successor to PR built on the Unreal Engine 4. It will better utilize today's gaming hardware and hopefully offer the same PR gameplay on a modern game engine.

i am already looking for supporting squad, but i don't know if i am able to play it smoothly ( i mean 60 frame per seconds in full hd )

[DesmoLocke]

i am already looking for supporting squad, but i don't know if i am able to play it smoothly ( i mean 60 frame per seconds in full hd )

Not many people can right now since the Squad devs haven't begin to optimize the game for all systems. It plays fairls smooth though right now on Epic settings (the highest) at 1080p. I maintained 30+ FPS but it went all the way up to 90 FPS. We shall see what kind of performance it has when its finished.

[killen]

Not many people can right now since the Squad devs haven't begin to optimize the game for all systems. It plays fairls smooth though right now on Epic settings (the highest) at 1080p. I maintained 30+ FPS but it went all the way up to 90 FPS. We shall see what kind of performance it has when its finished.

So, what should i do? Should i buy it? If i buy it next week, am i going to get the key for closed pre alpha or whatever?
I am too excited, either way for Traction War's and Squad. And War of Rights too.

[PLODDITHANLEY]

You can get immediate access - at a price, plus squad is far from finished and lacking lots of stuff. Your call man.

[DesmoLocke]

So, what should i do? Should i buy it? If i buy it next week, am i going to get the key for closed pre alpha or whatever?
I am too excited, either way for Traction War's and Squad. And War of Rights too.

You can see if someone has an extra key they're willing to sell here -> https://www.reddit.com/r/joinsquad/comments/3dokg3/official_buy_sell_trade_game_keys_thread/

Otherwise, you can pre-purchase here -> Pre-Purchase

Tier 1

Rifleman - Backer Level ($30 USD)
(Launch date Approx Dec 2015)

- Steam Early Access (regular retail $35)
- 1 Standard game key (Full game w/ Early Access)
- Backer tag in forums and in game

Tier 2

Squad Leader - Founder Level ($70 USD)
(Launch date Approx Sept 2015)

- Closed Alpha access
- Steam Early Access (regular retail $35)
- 1 Standard game key (Full game w/ Early Access)
- Founder patch in game
- Founder Tag in forums
- Alternate Primary weapon skins (AK and M4)
- Digital copy of the "Squad" soundtrack
- In game name in Credits