T72 IR smoke?

[Brozef]

Why can all tanks see through T 72 smoke but every other tank has IR blocking smoke? Just had an engagement where 1 Abrams took out 3 T 72s because he saw through our smoke as we were retreating. We had absolutely no chance.

Balance should take priority over realism, if that is the case then give the 72 IR blocking smoke launchers.

[Rudd]

Having no IR smoke is a disadvantage to vehicle vehicle combat, but against infantry its absolutely killer, buckets of death emerging from the smoke.

[PatrickLA_CA]

I think it's not that bad. Having no IR smoke is probably the only way you can make the T72 weaker than the Abrams without breaking the game which means that you should use different tactics when driving a T72 versus modern tanks.
According to you if balance should take priority in this case, then the Bradley should also be able to fire TOWs on the move because its counterpart on most maps, the BMP2M or the BMP3 can.

On big maps, combine T72s with BMP2M or BMP3 and the enemy armor will be gone. While the tanks take the hits, the BMPs roll up behind them and fire TOWs on the enemy tanks while they are rearming. Just last night my team did this and took out 5+ abrams tanks on Khamisiyah with 1 T72 as a victim.

[Brozef]

The smoke is meant as a defensive thing right? If that is the case then what is the point of having it when other vehicles can see you but you can't even see them to respond? This is just stupid.

[Fir3w411]

Pretty sure every map T-72 is on it goes up against other vehicles with thermals. In addition, the opposing faction typically has TOW, with thermals.

Very rarely will a T-72 going up against, for example, Abrams and Bradley APC, as well as TOWs on Khamishiyah, ever be able to just pop smoke and not get instantly destroyed by another vehicle or asset. Same applies for every map I can imagine that has T-72.

Some of the vehicles that shouldn't get IR smoke do (i.e. Warrior.) Meanwhile, this sitting explosion gets one to fight Abrams with.

[X-Alt]

If you lose 3 T-72s to an Abrams, IR smoke isn't the problem. The T-72 is better at INF and vs T-62s too, it's non IR blocking smoke helps it on Sbeneh, etc.

[piratepengu]

You didn't lose the tanks because of the smoke, you lost the tanks because you tried to retreat.

[Brozef]

We lost the tanks because the Abrams popped his smoke so we moved back to flank around, he moved forward and hit every single one of us from behind because the T72 smoke is utter garbage in vehicle engagements this is what I am saying. Scenarios like this make it a totally one sided fight.

[X-Alt]

We lost the tanks because the Abrams popped his smoke so we moved back to flank around, he moved forward and hit every single one of us from behind because the T72 smoke is utter garbage in vehicle engagements this is what I am saying. Scenarios like this make it a totally one sided fight.

Learn to soundcheck.

[solidfire93]

jeez you guys love to complicate thing up

well imho the T-72 is kick *** !

me and my friend managed to took out a Scimitar, a Warrior, some infy and thier logi,
Challenger MBT... and yet the tank is good for Infy lmao !!

@Brozef next time you hope in a T-72 make sure to stay with your fellow Tank Crew in ur squad and move/work together to attack/wait for thier Armour

use the elements of surprise while you drive/gun the T-72...

wait for the enemy, dont attack them while they are looking at your general direction....

hope out as the driver and use your binoculars... and listen !

i found out that maps like bijar,burning sands is good for T-72..

good luck.

[viirusiiseli]

We lost the tanks because the Abrams popped his smoke so we moved back to flank around, he moved forward and hit every single one of us from behind because the T72 smoke is utter garbage in vehicle engagements this is what I am saying. Scenarios like this make it a totally one sided fight.

If you had 3 T-72s against 1 M1 and you decided to pop smoke instead of stay and fight the problem is not with the game. It is with the crews. How is that not obvious to you?

I don't understand this thread.

[PatrickLA_CA]

I agree with the last two posts. The T-72 is fine as it is. Just because it didn't work one time because of a feature the T-72 doesn't have yet the Abrams has, doesn't mean the T-72 should get it.
If that's the case all tanks should get ATGMs too because T90 has it and Abrams/Leopard doesn't. For balance right?

Most of the times I've played Kashan and Khamisiyah after 1.3 I've seen Leopards and Abrams tanks getting wrecked. Don't know if it is due to bad crews on their side or good combo with T-72 and BMP2M on the MEC side.