To All the Veteran Players and Server Admins, Be Kind to New Players!

General discussion of the Project Reality: BF2 modification.
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Lt Col Keith
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Post by Lt Col Keith »

rontroninho wrote:My experience was sadly the same. You know what, though? F**K 'em ! Keep playing my friend :-)
As an "ancient" retired army officer; I experienced the same from some gamers when I started gaming. I did, eventually, find a clan that was built on team work and I thoroughly enjoyed my years gaming that clan

As a community, if we want to develop gameplay and team work, we need the more experienced players to help and mentor the less experienced players. Mentoring is not about illiterate swearing or shouting, but about encouragement and learning from mistakes. In the real world armies do this through training, before anyone get's seriously or fatally injured.

We don't have this available in game, so let's treat all games as a training exercise in which mentoring is a key part. Who knows ,we all may experience a truly enjoyable gaming team experience . :lol:
jcvjcvjcvjcv
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Post by jcvjcvjcvjcv »

I played PR before, but had a 1 year+ break. Now installing is so much easier, kudos!

But ever since the new influx of players it seems all the "experienced" guys on BLUFOR Insurgency are of the "camp" type. They pretty much all say "Defend this", "Hold that", "Let's hold up here", etc. I can't remember I lost so many Insurgency games as blufor 2 years ago.

For the new players, there should be that voice that tells how stuff works, like in regular BF2.

Some time ago I was on a LAN party, bringing in three new players. As uniforms looked completely alike, one of my newbie friends made a teamkill. He got kicked from the squad, teamkilled himself and the cursing on VoIP was ridiculous. Needless to say, all three got a very negative impression of PR.

That's not to mention the ridiculousness of servers kicking players whore ar enot in squad, but at the same time have all squads locked.

Or another idiot thing; admins in locked APC squad, with crew for 2 APC's. They didn't allow anyone else to use the 3rd APC... it was their hotspare...
aotn
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Post by aotn »

I got kicked several times for being a newbe. Admins are real assh*les.
If anyone can give me eu server with normal ppl how dont rage that would be great otherwise i not playing this sh*t anymore.
mries
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Post by mries »

You probably had bad luck with the squadleader. Make sure you have a good working microphone, let the squadleader know that you are new but eager to learn. Do not take any kit if not asked. Probably the squadleader will accept your newbiness and help you, it is a two way story. You have to be open and listening and the squadleader has to be open and helpful (otherwise he is a bad squadleader IMO).

Last thing, do not join reserved asset squads, stay with infantry for know and dont forget to read the manual!
It will all be worth it to learn this steep learning curve because it is the best game ever.

Good luck
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dda
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Post by dda »

Yes, PR need fresh blood!
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iglotruck
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Post by iglotruck »

aotn wrote:I got kicked several times for being a newbe. Admins are real assh*les.
If anyone can give me eu server with normal ppl how dont rage that would be great otherwise i not playing this sh*t anymore.
It all comes down to how you approach the game as a new player. I have a feeling a lot of new players don't specifically explain they're new, have no idea what they're doing and need help getting started properly. Time and time again we've asked players if they're new to this game, get a short "no" as answer, then realize that the guy has no idea WTF he's doing. If you're not willing to learn people aren't willing to teach, simple as that.
SyriousT
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iglotruck wrote: Time and time again we've asked players if they're new to this game, get a short "no" as answer, then realize that the guy has no idea WTF he's doing
I was SL , someone got in my squad my first 2 questions were do you have a mic and are you new to this game. He said yes and no I play for quite a while . I believed him until I ordered him to grab an engineer kit. He said the engineer class is deleted in this "mod" and its only in vbf2 . all my grunts burst in laughter then he admitted hes new but he lied so I dont kick him . He was good member and does what he was asked to do but he had no idea about
PR technique .
Taniko
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Post by Taniko »

I must say that I joined the game today, joined APC squad, had so much fun even through it was my first game plus all SLs taught me many things I quess. So all people who have been unfortunate to meet Drill Sergeant SLs, don't worry, you will met many of them, just try to listen to them, that would give you many experience.
lucifer666
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Post by lucifer666 »

i will try
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Rotblut
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Post by Rotblut »

We all have even started to play this game. Patience, we must have. Ultimately we will succeed.
And for the very new player, learn on your lokal server and then come to one of the COOP Servers, like Veterans-Gaming. The admins there are are not so stressed. ;-)
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dani2142
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Post by dani2142 »

I just joined this mod and got banned immediately for "teamkilling" whereas I didn't even shoot into anyone's direction. 100% admin abuse, should be reported. The server was Basic Teamwork EU.
Dockside_Bars
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Post by Dockside_Bars »

dani2142 wrote:I just joined this mod and got banned immediately for "teamkilling" whereas I didn't even shoot into anyone's direction. 100% admin abuse, should be reported. The server was Basic Teamwork EU.
Even though it was already explained this to you on our forum, you were tempbanned for not having a working microphone. The "teamkilling" message is a generic one that will appear on all kicks/tempbans regardless of what is written beforehand. The ban automatically lifts in three hours, and you are more than welcome to rejoin the server once you get a working microphone.
ZektorSK
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Thank you veterans,for kicking me because I died
Jacksonez__
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Post by Jacksonez__ »

ZektorSK wrote:Thank you veterans,for kicking me because I died
Do you have a microphone.
ZektorSK
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Jacksonez__ wrote:Do you have a microphone.
Yes I do
ParaPlays
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Post by ParaPlays »

I am a long time mislim player and a returning PR player, I played years and years ago but have returned. I had forgotten just how step the learning curve was on my return. Sure I have had a couple of people call me every name under the sun for asking simple questions.. read the f8 manual you c* .. not helpful when there are more questions to ask than just in the manual and you want to learn. (Which i have read btw)

But in general I have found PR to be a fantastic community, with many many people helping me back into the game including people like MT who invited me and 3 others into his discord channle to explain and guide us through basically everything. So I say thank you to the community, you now have 3 new players who love it.

I have not touched Squad since getting into PR and I had 300+ hours in that game. Thank you.
Noergaard
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Post by Noergaard »

Good to have you back, Para! And good to see more PR videos.

You touch down on an important issue. Good conduct. Respect. It is the essense of the PR experience. We need to pass it on.

I did, however, have to learn how to mute mumble. This is needed for when the round ends :wink:
The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion. Albert Camus

Shan~Man
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Post by Shan~Man »

As a newb player going on 2 months now, my experience so far has been good. I've bad naded my squad, tk'd on accident, wrecked a vehicle or 2 and never been kicked..........and I've learned a bunch of new shit from helpful players and gotten a little better imo. Maybe it has a bit to do with attitude ....right up front mention your a newer player, fess up to your mistakes, ask questions, read the forums, read the manual,play on coop for practice, look at the server rules, follow orders, use a mic, think about your last game and what you can do differantly that will improve the gameplay and watch vids of good players. Very simple really.
swizzler
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Post by swizzler »

Joined a server, CAS squad, Tank squad all full of server admins who tell everyone else to fuck off if they want to play heli/armor. Most of the server's i've joined have been like this, with server admins reserving anything besides transpo/infantry and kicking new players indiscriminately.

Probably half the reason why you get so many idiot admins in this game.

Well idiot server admins, you've got your wish. Keep that PR community nice and small. Uninstalled and never looking back.
Mouthpiece
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swizzler wrote:snip
Why did you even bother to tell us if you uninstalled? Like we care about one experience. We're too edgy for this shit, bro.
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