Replacing the MEC's G3 with a Type 56/AKM .

[Sgt.Negev]

we all know the MEC faction and it's simulation of the Middle Eastern armies IRL. The faction is unique with the combat terrain it fights in and in the enemy force that it combats.

ever since the Syrian Rebels faction was introduced around two years ago and the introduction of two Syrian Civil war maps (Kafr / Sbeneh) the MEC appeared to be misrepresented comparing to the Syrian Rebels faction or insurgents. The G3 rifle being the absolute rifle option for the entire MEC army highly disrupts the realism of the faction, especially while fighting against the Syrian Rebels.

The Middle Eastern forces IRL which the MEC faction is supposed to simulate are known to be the biggest client for the Soviet manufacturing industry in the 20th century. >> https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/pol ... iddle-east

Until this day all of the large middle east armies are relying on AK/AKM variants as a weapon for regular infantry troop (i.e: The Syrian Army, The Iraqi Army, The Egyptian Army, Post 2011 Libyan Army and many more). The G3 was indeed provided with large quantities to the middle east but only to the Saudi armed forces in the late 20th century.

I Still cant understand what was on the mind of the designer of the MEC faction to choose the G3 as the main infantry rifle.(possibly because of the scope option while fighting against the US faction.)
My point is that re-arranging the MEC Faction's infantry arsenal from the G3 to the AK/AKM Variants will highly boost the realism of the game while playing with or against the MEC faction.

Best,
Vitrix

[Sgt.Negev]

Also, art depictions of MEC type infantry in real life:

Syrian :





Egyptian:

[BigBigMonkeyMan]

Nah that's lame. Keep the G3. MEC is fictional why have another faction play with AKs. It gets old and is nice to have variety in the game.

[Jimbo of Ameridan]

I'll echo what monke said. G3 is neat and cool, AKs can get fucked.

That being said a 7.62 AK with an optic would be cool.

[Sgt.Negev]

Nah that's lame. Keep the G3. MEC is fictional why have another faction play with AKs. It gets old and is nice to have variety in the game.

I agree that variety of arms in the game is a entertaining element. yet you can't just perceive the AK/AKM Variants as 1 unit. only in the game we have 10+ variants of AK's including scoped ones. playing middle eastern maps with MEC using G3s is like playing Muttrah with the US faction using Chinese rifles.

Eventually the Project starts with the word "REALITY" and what signifies this mod is that it's a multiplayer warefare simulator on a BF3 engine. Applying such move will absolutely empower the realism element in the game.

[InfantryGamer42]

Eventually the Project starts with the word "REALITY" and what signifies this mod is that it's a multiplayer warefare simulator on a BF3 engine. Applying such move will absolutely empower the realism element in the game.

Not really true statement (first, this is BF2 :lol . Reality is not absolute factor that forces changes when we talk about PR and as such PR is not "simulator". Calling reality as argument means nothing tbh.

There is probably more threads like this about MEC and "issue" of G3 and every time G3 stayed for MEC. So, no. There is no need to change MEC rifle. There was also idea to include SAA specific faction for Syrian Civil war maps so that argument also goes out threw window.

[Frontliner]

I personally think we have plenty of AK factions in the game already, not to mention that MEC's entire carpool is also filled with Russian assests as well. So in a nutshell, all you're doing is recreating the Russian faction and I personally much rather had something else as standard issue rifle for a MEC subfaction.

[LimitJK]

The G3 was indeed provided with large quantities to the middle east but only to the Saudi armed forces in the late 20th century.

I Still cant understand what was on the mind of the designer of the MEC faction to choose the G3 as the main infantry rifle.[/FONT][/SIZE]

its ayran bro.

[Sgt.Negev]

Not really true statement (first, this is BF2 :lol . Reality is not absolute factor that brakes everything around when we talk about PR and as such PR is not "simulator". Calling reality as argument means nothing tbh.

There is probably like this about MEC and "issue" of G3 and every time G3 stayed for MEC. So, no. There is no need to change MEC rifle. There was also idea to include SAA specific faction for Syrian Civil war maps so that argument also goes out threw window.

Dude, other than two words which made sense, what ever you wrote in that paragraph is unreadable.

I personally think we have plenty of AK factions in the game already, not to mention that MEC's entire carpool is also filled with Russian assests as well. So in a nutshell, all you're doing is recreating the Russian faction and I personally much rather had something else as standard issue rifle for a MEC subfaction.

You're actually making a very good point. the modern day middle eastern armies highly rely on 80s soviet equipment. I still hope that the Developers tweak the MEC faction a little more either by reconstructing their kits or upgrading the assets they have.

[sweedensniiperr]

we had this thread already https://www.realitymod.com/forum/showth ... p?t=148643

yw mods

[spacemarine42]

I think it would be cool to eventually have a separate Iranian faction with G3s, and give the MEC (which would fight Iran) AK-type weapons. However, there are several military forces in the Middle East that use G3s, most notably Saudi Arabia, which means that for now, the G3 fits the fictional MEC perfectly. Moreover, it's simply more interesting to have a conventional faction that uses battle rifles in full-powered cartridges rather than assault rifles.

Please do not change the MEC's service rifles to AKs.

[Grump/Gump.45]

I will have to side with the G3 here. Many reasons including lists of previous users and licensed middle eastern manufacturers. Iran, Iraq, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia having it listed is good enough for me. I have plenty of chances to use the AKM style weapons. MEC rifles add a different dynamic to the game, every man becomes a sniper if they feel confident, comfortable and adapted to how this weapon operates in the game.

Weapons without BUIS need to allow using contour of rifle or scope so we have something to aim with in CQC. Without this it feels psychologically uncomfortable, we all know G3 in full auto, close range with scope on either aimed or hip firing with it is inaccurate against M16s. The kick can be bio-mechanically stabilized more in game too, but still needs to be fought with the mouse resetting point of aim like all weapons

[Operator_Max1993]

bump

but i'd like to say in my opinion

No.

just No.

i don't want another AK based faction
there's already Insurgents, Vietnam, Syrian and Chechen rebels and ARF

and i actually love the G3 rifles
so, i agree to disagree with this



#NotMyMEC

[Crylink]

Youre all talking about realism and which country has which weapon.

This is a game! we need balance. G3 is just horrible compared to the AK-74m for example.

the G3 can somewhat work in muttrah because the US forces dont get full auto rifles.

look at kfar halab RUS vs MEC for example. how many times did the MEC forces get demolished fighting the ak-74m?

look at sbeneh outskirts AAS MEC vs Syrian Rebels(when the flags are in the urban part of the map)
if the teams are balanced MEC cant even get into the city\

sure the G3 is a great DMR but most maps are close ranged like burning sands where british rifles just fire like theres no recoil while the MEC dude has to move his mouse a meter back to get another shot on target.

[CAS_ual_TY]

Lets discuss realism of a fictional faction

[dcm]

I believe that all MEC ironsight layers should have the G3 replaced instead with the AKM/TYPE 56. Because Iron sight battle rifles factions just aint fun. Not even on falklands. The G3/FAL effective damage is similar to the AKs already but the recoil is just too damn high. On sbeneh the MEC gets demolished by the Syrian Rebels. In CQB and medium range engagements. Only the MG3 is able to bridge the performance gap and in many cases demolish the AK based weapons.