Laser target from attack helicopter

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ros
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Laser target from attack helicopter

Post by ros »

Could please somebody teach me how to lock enemy (moving or not) vehicles from the attack helicopter?
I mean: how can the co-pilot lock a vehicle him self and shoot a laser target missile?
When i say "lock" i mean that the laser target follows the moving vehicle.
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McBumLuv
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Re: Laser target from attack helicopter

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The only way you can "lock" onto anything is if there is a laser target painted on them, either by right clicking it whilst in the attack chopper, or with an SL or sniper on the ground targeting for you. Even then, your crosshairs won't follow the target, but your missile will lock onto it. THe only way to keep your crosshairs on-target is to move them manually, and that's hard while on the move considering there is no stabalization.
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ros
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Re: Laser target from attack helicopter

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Thank you :wink: I really appreciated that you have answered me but i already know all this
i tried as co-pilot on a cobra to laser-target (with second fire button), but it locks ok everything except the vehicle... it happened only a few times that, while moving (both the chopper and the truck), i got a lock on him and i could shoot without aiming.
the problem is that it's so hard to have a lock on a vehicle that i think i'm doing something wrong...
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McBumLuv
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Re: Laser target from attack helicopter

Post by McBumLuv »

No, it's just the engine. Because there's no stabalization, most people tend to prefer hovering up high in the air to get a completely stable platform. However, with good practice, a good ping and a good FPS, it's possible to hit targets whilst on the move, you simply need to get used to moving and shooting with your pilot.

That's why most people prefer to play with people they know, becuase it's less uncomfortable asking them to do stuff.
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Mora
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Re: Laser target from attack helicopter

Post by Mora »

Why would you even want to use that if you could as well shoot a hellfire? Its faster as well.
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Re: Laser target from attack helicopter

Post by McBumLuv »

I think he was asking if there was a way to stabalize the crosshairs, or if attack choppers had a targeting system like an aimbot that let you track vehicles, no?

Though, if you want to learn more about piloting/copiloting attack choppers, Mora and Romagnalo both have some good guides on it, and you should also get a friend to help you train, it's much easier that way.
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Alex6714
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Re: Laser target from attack helicopter

Post by Alex6714 »

My advice (albeit more as a pilot) is just to use the manually guided. The laser is so slow and unreliable it just means you have to hover in the same place for way to long. Exactly what that tank wants.

Before to counter the stabilisation you could fire a couple of hellfires to hit it, but now with the 5 second limit thats not possible. :(
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Re: Laser target from attack helicopter

Post by McBumLuv »

Actually, there are in my mind 3 reasons why you would ever lase in a chopper, though you'd have to make sure you had complete air superiority, otherwise you are a sitting duck, and an easy target.

  1. In a "light" attack chopper (such as the Eurocopter, a Littlebird, an Attack Huey, etc ...) in order to paint targets from far away using the 10x zoom so that your pilot can see them.
  2. In those same "light" choppers, painting a target for another form of air support. IE, on Kashan, Flying high in the clouds lasing enemy tanks so that your planes can bomb them (I wish more people would do this rather than simply use the LB/Eurocopter as joyrides, uselessly).
  3. In a heavy attack chopper, lasing targets so that your pilot can give you a visual confirmation, or as a second opinion, or as a general area to keep an on, or w/e.
Painting targets, IS useful, but only if used properly,with teamworking players.
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Salah ad Din
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Re: Laser target from attack helicopter

Post by Salah ad Din »

I think his main question was how he can get the Laser Targeter on a moving target. Once it IS on a target, it will move with it, since the laser is really a sticky projectile. So, if you manage to hit a target with the laser, you could fire and forget.

The problem is that the laser projectiles speed is really low, so you have to lead a moving target by quite a lot. There isn't really anything to teach, lead the target according to its distance, ground speed and direction of travel and you might get a laser targetted from time to time.
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ros
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Re: Laser target from attack helicopter

Post by ros »

ok... wait.
try this at home please hehehe:
forget about pilot let's speak about the co-pilot.
he can lock a target using laser target missiles (that means the same hellfires but used not manually) to fire and forget.
we tried and it works well.
the problem is: to lock a truck while it is moving, is really really hard (but possible, we managed). so the question is: how to make it easier?
this way you could lock a tank, fire and aim wherever you want while the hellfire flys to the target on his own.
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Re: Laser target from attack helicopter

Post by Spuz36 »

See the game you play in lazing in a target is waiting until the target stops so you can get a accurate lase. It's even harder in a chopper because you need to account for chopper movement, this has been said. I refrain from lasing any moving vehicles unless they are really close to get a instant stick.

I think it is fine the way it is because it inspires teamwork to have teams on the field sending a lase for CAS. Besides, if it is moving, and in range, it should be fairly easy to track it manually and land a destructive hit nearby to take it out/flame. Trucks can be drained by a spray of 20mm quite easily too.

If you want to fire and forget because of other tasks firing on you, you should change your target priority or get out of the location. Take time in taking your shots, tell your pilot to even out and hover, then carefully guide the hellfire on the target.

The current Laser Targeted system is really relaxing because you can fire without visual confirmation and forget, the target is dead. :D
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