PRMumble Help FAQ and Tips and Tricks

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PRMumble Help FAQ and Tips and Tricks

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Customizing PRMumble and the PRMumble Overlay

How to automatically start Mumble along with PR (in one click)
  • A. Batch file creation
Editing Settings Inside PRMumble
  • A. Audio Input
  • B. Audio Output
  • C. User Interface

How to fix the annoyance of the Channel Tree continuously Expanding and collapsing
  • D. Shortcuts

Less keys= good?
  • E. Network
  • F. Messages
  • G. Overlay
  • H. UNinstalling and Reinstalling

Community submitted overlays

How to automatically start Mumble along with PR (in one click)
Open Notepad, type in the following
@echo off
start "" "C:\Program Files (x86)\PR Mumble\pr_mumble.exe" mumble://YourUsername@mumble.realitymod.com:64739/?version=1.2.0 -m
start "" "C:\Program Files (x86)\EA GAMES\Battlefield 2\mods\pr\pr.exe" +restart +playerName yourBF2login +playerPassword yourBF2password
exit
If you put it like this, the +restart will skip intro videos, and +playerName and +playerPassword will login you automatically. These are CASE SENSITIVE, you must type exactly +playerName , not +playername or +PlayerName .

Go to File->Save As
You need to save this as a .bat file, not as a .txt file, to do so, name the file something like PRandPRMumble.bat , and use quotation marks around it,
such as
"PRandPRMumble.bat" including the quotation marks
select your desktop or appropriate save location, and click save.

Run Multiple instances of the Mumble Client
if you start the mumble client with the option -m You are allowed to start another instance of the client on the same System. Be aware that this switch is unsupported and can cause all kinds of strange behaviours as the two clients still share the same config, database, overlay,.....you get the idea ;-) (especially make sure you don't use volume attenuation^^)
3. Customizing PRMumble and the PRMumble Overlay


You have to have your Mic plugged in before you start PRmumble.exe and PR. Seriously, we had to add this to the FAQ.
Editing Settings Inside PRMumble

On the Top Menu Bar, Select Configure -> Settings


A. Audio Input.
a. Interface should be selected to your Microphone be default. This could be called Mic, Line In, or most usually ?Default Device?, Check it quickly. Make sure Echo is Disabled.
b. Compression Quality is MAXED on the server side to 40 kbit/s , if you have lagging problems when talking on Mumble, you can lower this to 29 kbit/s to free up a small amount of bandwidth.
c. Audio Processing settings is trial by error dependent on your hardware, microphone and internet connection
If you are having problems with PRMumble sending audio out to the wrong output device, i.e. to your speakers instead of your headphones, or vice versa, Check Audio Output-> Interface below.
Then go to Windows Manage Audio Devices and make sure you have the correct Device set as your ?Default Device? .


B. Audio Output
a. Interface should be selected to your appropriate device. This could be called Headsets, Line Out, Speakers, or most usually ?Default Device?, Check it quickly.
b. Audio Output is trial by error dependent on your hardware, and speakers/headphones. The lower the buffer and Output Delay the better.
c. Positional Audio check the Headphones checkbox if you use headphones, however some quadraphonic, 5.1 6.1 7.1 headphones might be better keeping this unchecked. Positional Audio is a trial by error.

C. User Interface
a. Layout is a trial by error. Most if not all the custom overlays by veteran players are using the Classic layout.
How to fix the annoyance of the Channel Tree continuously Expanding and collapsing as players join/leave/change channels. IMPORTANT FOR SERVER ADMINS
b. Channel Tree IS IMPORTANT. Essential for Squad Leaders and useful for all.
i. Channel Dragging : Do Nothing
ii. Expand: None
iii. Show channel user count ->Optionally check the box

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D. Shortcuts
If you delete, create or rearrange the shortcut keys in this Beta release you will have no choice but to uninstall and reinstall PRMumble.
  • Uninstall PRMumble in Control Panel.
  • Start command prompt and type "%appdata%" in it (without quotes) and press Enter. It should open YourUsername>AppData>Roaming directory. Then you can delete the complete Mumble(PR Edition) folder.
  • Reinstall PRMumble and default shortcuts should work.
a. As of right now in Beta testing, creating local shortcuts is difficult. Below is a map of the default keys. As of right now do not try to create a new shortcut, simply edit the existing shortcuts and remap the key.
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b. Notebooks without numberpads are at a true disadvantage here. If anyone can chime on on working solutions, please do so.
c.
Less keys= good?

If you think 13 keys are too much you can reduce the numbers of keys some.
The 13 keys are 9 squad leader keys + 4 keys other channels. I find the 9 SL keys fine. But I like to only use 2 keys to get the 4 other functions. How? Key-kombos.

Lets for some reason want to use the keys A and B (just for illustration).
A can be local talk
B can be squad
A+B can be SL-channel
B+A can be Commander

Result: You can use the v + b keys for 4 mumble functions, if you move the vanilla keys somewhere else.

E. Network
a. Tick these boxes: Use Quality of Service, Reconnect Automatically, Reconnect to Last Server on Startup
b. Misc: Tick Disable image download

F. Messages
a. IMPORTANT, deselecting as many as possible slows down the scroll on the left (log) column


G. Overlay
NOTE: The Default Overlay is a mess with all options set to ON. We want to remove unnecessary clutter and provide only relevant information on screen during game play.
a. Note that different roles use different overlay options, especially for pilots.
b. To edit the overlay you need to go to mumble configuration>overlay> then right click on the desktop preview seen in the pic below, RIGHT CLICK THE BIG RED DOT and at the bottom of the contextual menu it says edit.
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c. Community Submitted Overlays
You can download, unzip and install overlays at the bottom of this thread:
Attached Files
Litoralis_Overlay_January_2012.rar (470 Bytes, 0 views)
Rivers_Overlay.rar (1.1 KB, 0 views)
Ancient_Overlay.zip (5.2 KB, 0 views)
NoSurrender_overlay.rar (455 Bytes, 0 views)


d. How to Install
i. go to mumble Configuration>Overlay>then click the load button>select the overlay you just downloaded and click ok. simple.
Editing Overlay is simple, right click the Overlay (The words Silent, Talking, Whisper, Shout) and select Edit.

The four linked Overlay files above all differ quite a bit, the commonality is deselecting the "Avatar" and "Mute state" tick boxes.
Most people do not use the "bounding Box".
The "Channel" tickbox will show the Squad number because the channels are named "Squad 1" "Squad 2" etc. It's good to use, though some argue it lowers the realism.
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H. UNinstalling and Reinstalling
Uninstall PRmumble, and delete its configs. Easiest way is to use Win+R and type "%appdata%" and press enter.

It will open "C:\Users\[Username]\AppData\Roaming\"

Now lookup for folder named Mumble there and delete it. Reboot and Reinstall the newest PRMumble
Tips and Tricks:


1. If Enabling the PRMumble Overlay crashes PR immediately after starting PR and you reach the first black screen before the PR logo appears, try this:
You might want to try adding -nod3d9ex to the end of your PRMumble.com shortcut. Note that this might lower FPS...
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2.
Open PRMumble, connect, , go to Configure->Overlay->Overlay Exceptions->Whitelist->Click ADD button on bottom right...

Add:
battlefield2\bf2.exe
battlefield2\mods\pr\pr.exe
battlefield2\mods\pr\tr.exe
fraps\fraps.exe

Click Apply.

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Special thanks to K_Rivers, dtacs and everyone else who contributed to the following thread when PRMumble 1.0Beta was first released on the forum:
The original threads where much of this information was first discussed, and the overlays were first uploaded and shared:
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f10-pr ... ttons.html
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f10-pr-bf2-general-discussion/105841-riverss-mumble-v1-0-custom-overlay.html
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Re: PRMumble Help FAQ and Tips and Tricks

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Some Tips and Tricks stuff:

How to fix BF2 Linking if you altered/moved/deleted your PR intro splashscreen movies:

Many people had had troubles similar to the one below:

QUOTE=Tachidude;1694135]For all those, who cannot get "Battlefield 2 linked" message check if you altered (deleted, change names) of files that are in BF2\mods\pr\movies. I've done this to get rid of intros for faster startup of PR, and new mumble cant link to PR. I started mumble and PR after a clean reinstall - "oh no, not those intros again..." but i looked at new mumble and saw that its now linked with BF2. Again I altered the files by changing their names (by adding "1" at the end) and mumble couldnt link. So for me its either no intros either mumbling. Hope it helps/QUOTE]

This is easily fixable WITHOUT having to uninstall and reinstall PR.

Option 1 is to redownload the original movies and place them back in BF2\mods\pr\movies directory.
QUOTE='[R-COM]MaSSive;1694220']Names are

Code: Select all

bss_intro.bik
menubg.bik
pr_intro.bik

Get them >here</QUOTE][/indent]

Option 2 is to alter your start up parameters through a command line switch. Just put "+restart 1" in your PR shortcut without the "", such as below:

QUOTE=SterrUwe321;1694579]XP BUG FIX!

Like the guy above me said, there's a bug with the auto-connect.
If you have deleted/or renamed the Movies in the folder:
C :P rogramms/EA/BF2/mods/pr/Movies

Mumble 1.0.0 won't be able to auto switch you into the right Channel!

In my case, i had to uninstall PR and reinstall it again (Yeah im a fool and deleted the Intro Movies).
But that way you can fix the bug!

And how another guy above me said: Just put "+restart 1" in your PR shortcut without the ""
Rightclick on your PR shortcut ->

This allows you to still avoid the annoying Intros ^^/QUOTE
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Re: PRMumble Help FAQ and Tips and Tricks

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More Tips and Tricks
'[R-DEV wrote:dbzao;1693831']Known Issues
  • Commander doesn't hear Squad Leaders talking to all Squad Leaders.
  • Squad Leader 8 can't hear other Squad Leaders talking specifically to him - NUM 8.
  • When installing PRMumble you CAN NOT have any other version of Mumble running. IF you had another version of Mumble running during installation of PRMumble the quickest solution is to uninstall PRmumble, shutdown the other version of Mumble, reboot, and reinstall PRmumble.
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Post by Apocalypse89 »

Pretty good guide...seems to cover almost everything.
[R-COM]LITOralis.nMd wrote: b. Notebooks without numberpads are at a true disadvantage here. If anyone can chime on on working solutions, please do so.
I play on a notebook and as far as I can see there are two solutions:

1. My notebook at least lets you access the numpad(replacing certain standard keys with it) by activating the num lock, which itself is activated through the function(fn) key...if you're quick it only takes a second to activate/deactivate it, though it's still not as convenient as just pressing the keys when you need them.

2. I've seen USB numpads for notebooks being sold at some computer stores, these seem like they would be useful for this purpose, though they'll take up space on your desk and cost money.

Thankfully I don't lead squads too often yet...when I do I'll probably go with option 2.
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Press Win + R and type "%appdata%" in it (without quotes) and press enter. It should open YourUsername>AppData>Roaming

Then you can delete complete mumble folder after you uninstall mumble first. Reinstall and it should work. I think mumble uses sqlite database to keep data so editing it and tweaking is not a good idea.
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nice guide lots of info
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Post by Mariospeedwagen »

Been trying to get Mumble to work for a week now. I can login to the main server but when I start PR Mumble doesn't link up with it. Yes I am running as administrator.

-I have BF2 installed on D drive and Mumble installed on C, does that make a difference?
-I think I read somewhere that there's an issue with the PR movie files, which I had deleted to make the game load faster. Could this be the problem?

Other than these I don't know what I could be doing wrong.
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This problem is mentioned in the post above you. Please take a look:
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f27-pr ... ost1726386
You need this movies in your PR folder.
'[R-COM wrote:MaSSive;1694220']Names are

Code: Select all

bss_intro.bik
menubg.bik
pr_intro.bik

Get them >here<
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Post by kilo_3_8 »

Mumble audio input not functioning. Have reinstalled twice and still Nada. I know I have installed right (admin.) Anyway of testing mike on Mumble?
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Ok. Try this.

Uninstall mumble, and delete its configs. Easiest way is to use Win+R and type "%appdata%" and press enter.

It will open "C:\Users\*YOU*\AppData\Roaming\"

Now lookup for folder named Mumble there and delete it. Reboot and do registry cleanup after that. ( CC Cleaner ie. )

Once you reboot install mumble again BUT make sure you right click on installer and check all on compatibiity tab except "Run in 256 colors" and "Run in 640x480 resolution". Use XP SP3 compatibility mode.

Run installer and when it prompts to start and run audio wizard shut it down. Find mumble icon and go to compatibility tab again. ( Remember do this on mumble shortcut now not the installer )

Check run as administrator there and Run is XP SP3 compatibility mode, nothing else!

Now you can start it and go trough audio wizard, make sure you follow instructions in this thread.

Let us know if its fixed after that.
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Every time i die ingame mumble just crashed and i am out. tested on different servers. mumble works fine till i die.
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Post by Mariospeedwagen »

'[R-COM wrote:BloodyDeed;1728997']This problem is mentioned in the post above you. Please take a look:
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f27-pr ... ost1726386
You need this movies in your PR folder.
Thanks, that did it! I didn't bother to read through the whole thread because every other issue people have been having seemed to be different than mine. Internet high-five to you, good sir.
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Hello, I have some problems with Mumble. Mumble start and link with PR but when I join a server mumble don't switch me automatic to correct channel, and it's never send me to a squad. I have tried things like:
Remove start movies, run as admin (mumble and PR), reinstall mumble, other account/nicks, but nothing helps.
The only way is if I move my self to correct server and to "no squad" channel, I can hear the others over local speech, but because I can't join correct squad I most of the time got kicked out of the squad. Hope you guys can help me because I realy want to have good teamplay.

/BeckPriemer
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Beck,
We've seen your problem a few times, we are not quite sure why this is happening, I hope the guys developing PRMumble can chime in.

what OS?
Did you first install PRMumble while logged in a user account with administrator rights?
Did you first install BF2 while logged in a user account with administrator rights?

You need to put the start movies in place. The INTRO MOVIE HAS TO BE IN PLACE or you will not get linked.
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[R-COM]LITOralis.nMd wrote:Beck,

1. what OS?
2. Did you first install PRMumble while logged in a user account with administrator rights?
3. Did you first install BF2 while logged in a user account with administrator rights?

4. You need to put the start movies in place. The INTRO MOVIE HAS TO BE IN PLACE or you will not get linked.
1. Windows 7 x64
2. Yes, Im the only user.
3. I think so, but Im not 100% sure.
4. I've put +restart in the shortcut. Should I remove it and just rename the files?
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Read the 2nd reply in this thread:

https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f27-pr ... ost1726386

IF you jsut renamed the movie files, put them back to original name.

PRMumble will NEVER link to PR if menubg.bik is not running in the PR menu background.
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This had a mistake in it. Will post another response.
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Mumble G15 keyboard won't show up in Mumble! What's the deal?

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