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so... T-72 going to be shit for next update

if it mec why not put the saudi M1A2S . if it war against infantry they will get the t70 but if it against other tanks alot of them have t90 and abrams ??
i dont know anything about tanks it only an idea

"18% damage"

CURRENT_YEAR wrote:"18% damage"

That is a hit against top armor and it pretty much looks like 122% damage to me

https://southfront.org/tow-2a-vs-t-90-detailed-analysis/

Interesting article

[R-DEV]Mats391 wrote:That is a hit against top armor and it pretty much looks like 122% damage to me

Top-attack ATGMs confirmed for 1.4?

[R-DEV]Mats391 wrote:That is a hit against top armor and it pretty much looks like 122% damage to me

If you had a mechanic that makes the TOW explode when it's above an enemy armor to simulate top-attack, you'd be correct.

If this was PR, the missile would've passed harmlessly over the tank.

Without that mechanic, a front-armor hit (as well as side and rear) in PR should simulate a detonation above the target IRL.

Hence, without implementing any top-attack mechanic, TOWs in PR should one-shot a tank.

Does anyone remember or have any documentation about the PR: Combined Arms mini-mod? I'm pretty sure that there was a top attack mode for launchers as well as targeting system for armor. Anyone confirm?

CURRENT_YEAR wrote:"18% damage"

*no TNT was used during filming this video

PatrickLA_CA wrote:Does anyone remember or have any documentation about the PR: Combined Arms mini-mod? I'm pretty sure that there was a top attack mode for launchers as well as targeting system for armor. Anyone confirm?

It worked by fitting vehicles with laser targets and the missiles being an LT mode basically.

chrisweb89 wrote:It worked by fitting vehicles with laser targets and the missiles being an LT mode basically.

Isn't that how the Merkava currently works in game?

Thank you for nerfing HEAT. Shout out to Zwilling. Just give MEC the T-90 for the love of god, the T-72 nerf is long overdue.

X-Alt wrote:Thank you for nerfing HEAT. Shout out to Zwilling. Just give MEC the T-90 for the love of god, the T-72 nerf is long overdue.

that's not a bad idea..
just give them the version that does not have ATGM on it....

Syrian Army T-90A During Battle in northern aleppo, February 2016



T-90A ? Russian army version with welded turret, V-92S2 engine and ESSA thermal viewer. Sometimes called T-90 Vladimir.

correct me if im wrong about this version... regarding ATMG on it..

solidfire93 wrote:that's not a bad idea..
just give them the version that does not have ATGM on it....

Syrian Army T-90A During Battle in northern aleppo, February 2016



T-90A ? Russian army version with welded turret, V-92S2 engine and ESSA thermal viewer. Sometimes called T-90 Vladimir.

correct me if im wrong about this version... regarding ATMG on it..

Probably the old T-90S batches. ATGM doesn't matter since it's nerfed.

solidfire93 wrote:that's not a bad idea..
just give them the version that does not have ATGM on it....

Syrian Army T-90A During Battle in northern aleppo, February 2016



T-90A ? Russian army version with welded turret, V-92S2 engine and ESSA thermal viewer. Sometimes called T-90 Vladimir.

correct me if im wrong about this version... regarding ATMG on it..

It is necessary to point out the small proportion of T-90s being operated by Arabs, in the maps with greater tanks count, this ratio would need to be re-created with loyalts restricting 1 T-90 mixed with other T-72s

blayas wrote:It is necessary to point out the small proportion of T-90s being operated by Arabs, in the maps with greater tanks count, this ratio would need to be re-created with loyalts restricting 1 T-90 mixed with other T-72s

Nobody cares, the T-72A\M1 just needs to be nerfed into the ground, and added to Grozny. Also makes Sbeneh more immersive without Thermals, and the T-90 can be added to rich Arab MEC without consequence. Nobody cares that nobody operates the BMP-2M, we still have it because it's cool.

Rabbit wrote:

HHHNNNNNNNNNNNGGG

X-Alt wrote:Nobody cares, the T-72A\M1 just needs to be nerfed into the ground, and added to Grozny. Also makes Sbeneh more immersive without Thermals, and the T-90 can be added to rich Arab MEC without consequence. Nobody cares that nobody operates the BMP-2M, we still have it because it's cool.

BMP-2M is operated by Algeria in huge numbers (1000+) :

1400 BMP-1/2/3

240 BMP-1 Vanilla
760 BMP-1 modernized with the Berezokh turret (BMP-2M)
300 BMP-2 modernized to BMP-2M standard
100 BMP-3

sources :

BMP Upgrades Drive Algerian Modernization

And concerning the T-72 many Arabs country have upgraded their T-72 Syria (TURMS-T), Algeria (T-72M1M)...

For the T-90 syria operate an unknown number and Algeria has 500+.

Those numbers can help the devs to sort out the balance on big maps.

X-Alt wrote:Nobody cares, the T-72A\M1 just needs to be nerfed into the ground, and added to Grozny. Also makes Sbeneh more immersive without Thermals, and the T-90 can be added to rich Arab MEC without consequence. Nobody cares that nobody operates the BMP-2M, we still have it because it's cool.

If(/when) the T-72M1 gets nerfed to shit-tier, Militia should get it on some maps Why not Grozny? I recall seeing one picture from battle of Grozny where militants were driving a captured T-72 and BTR-60(/80).

Militants driving captured BMP-2 in Grozny


Militants operating captured T-72 (I suppose it's T-72?)



Grozny LRG:
T-72
BMP-2
BMP-1

for militia