Australian Defence Force suggestions.

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Truism
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Re: Australian Defence Force suggestions.

Post by Truism »

I'm pretty sure 3150m on MAF AK74's is a typo in the stuff I was reading anyway given their PKMs are well less than that.

Why isn't Australia focussed on war with China? If a huge war broke out between China and America, Australian forces would see the vast bulk of the fighting over South East Asia (OGT for example) while other nations deployed.
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Truism wrote:Just keep in mind the average MAF Squad member carries a special AK that gives him about twice the plan range of Australian soldier using an F88, and a maximum effective range of 3150m.
Guess we'd better bin our brand new L115A3s...I know you were taking the piss ;)
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Truism wrote:Why isn't Australia focussed on war with China? If a huge war broke out between China and America, Australian forces would see the vast bulk of the fighting over South East Asia (OGT for example) while other nations deployed.
We are. Google the "Defence White paper", China was displeased
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Truism
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Re: Australian Defence Force suggestions.

Post by Truism »

I meant in PR.
dtacs
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Post by dtacs »

You are correct Truism, British forces could not mobilize to SE Asia as fast as we could, however there are huge amounts of US forces stationed in and around Japan right? They would probably get there faster than we could.

However, that does bring up a good point, alot of those areas, Tad Sae, OGT etc. could possibly be Australian battles, thinking from a logical POV.
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Post by Rudd »

However, that does bring up a good point, alot of those areas, Tad Sae, OGT etc. could possibly be Australian battles, thinking from a logical POV.
I think most maps would benefit from seperate scenarios involving different teams. Though speed of deployment shouldn't really be the deciding factor on who goes on what map imo, thats a narrow scenario.

e.g. teams like the US Army have the stryker, a 50cal APC would vastly change the dynamics of maps like Tad Sae imo. (where a HEAT armed APC like th LAV/Warrior would just make the map an orgy of getting pwned) This also allows the chinese 50cal apc to be featured - which is interesting since its amphibious. The Aussies's main vehicle, (the bushmaster?) would also make these maps interesting.
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Dr2B Rudd wrote:I think most maps would benefit from seperate scenarios involving different teams. Though speed of deployment shouldn't really be the deciding factor on who goes on what map imo, thats a narrow scenario.

e.g. teams like the US Army have the stryker, a 50cal APC would vastly change the dynamics of maps like Tad Sae imo. (where a HEAT armed APC like th LAV/Warrior would just make the map an orgy of getting pwned) This also allows the chinese 50cal apc to be featured - which is interesting since its amphibious. The Aussies's main vehicle, (the bushmaster?) would also make these maps interesting.
Well yes it shouldn't be a deciding factor but something like Germans on Tad Sae is a bit far-fetched. But like people say the British need more maps if anything.

Unfortunate thing is with so many of these community factions being developed PR just has too much choice.

With the length of the game-times at the moment (1-2 hours) allmap maplists have no place in PR as there isn't enough time to actually get a solid game in on a weekday night on more than 1 or 2 maps, so replacing 'good' British maps with other factions could cause them to be played less.

Its a dilemma without a solution.

Also, the Stryker equivalent of the ADF is more closely related to the ASLAV-PC, an LAV-25 with a RWS .50, pretty much a stryker but with an increased compartment and only 2 crewmen.

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Truism
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Re: Australian Defence Force suggestions.

Post by Truism »

dtacs wrote: Unfortunate thing is with so many of these community factions being developed PR just has too much choice.
There are too many community factions. Given that there are squabbles over changes to the CP Vehicle model to make them map specific that would make PR as a whole absolutely no more than a few hundred MB bigger, adding community factions that have very little or no real world deployments seems a little silly.
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Post by sylent/shooter »

Ya this will get really big for people that are just starting PR, and have to download it...... 5gb probs

How are we gonna fix this?

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RUSSIAN147
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Where do i download this mod?
Snazz
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RUSSIAN147 wrote:Where do i download this mod?
There's a test version here: BigD Gaming Community

Just have to register and log in to access it.
anglomanii
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Post by anglomanii »

just as a thought i hope the devs do not intend making the Bushmaster a crew operated vehicle.

i would stress, that fact apon talking to several of the soldiers that actually drive them and that due to the fact that the vehicle requires only a open license to drive and all weapons systems are simply mounted versions of infantry systems, there should be no requirement for this to be a crewed vehicle, i could go an and explain further, but if any of the devs on this faction would like to contact me and hear my reasons it would be welcomed.



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Redamare
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Any paradrop maps?? ^_^ this would be fun to watch ahah
hades198
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Post by hades198 »

I reckon the special forces should be the SAS and that for most mission they should be able to skydive/air drop to their target.
Snazz
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Post by Snazz »

hades198 wrote:I reckon the special forces should be the SAS
There hasn't been any special forces in PR for a while now, they might return someday but at the moment it's not worth thinking too much about.
hades198 wrote:and that for most mission they should be able to skydive/air drop to their target.
The concept of para-drop maps is being tested so it's a possibility.
anglomanii
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Post by anglomanii »

ok ADF community guys, i have very limited acces to the net ATM, so i am requsting help in getting some material done, i need refpics, raw data, and anecdotal information with sources.
i need people to investigate,
1: vipir2 weapons sight,
2:the blazer tac2 in .338 lapua mag.
3: f88SA3 DMR rifle (this one exists but is under serious raps)
4:7.62 minimi LMG (all varients)
5: info on the new (EOS) enhances optical sight being considered.
6: pics and refs on the new (AIROS) advanced Infer Red Optical Sight for the M3 karl Gustaf

if anyone is interested i am needing this info because of advancements on several programs due to the Army Capabilites Review Infantry 2012 program.

the only reason i am asking for help is that i dont have regular access to the net. so i need help researching.

if you are able to help just put the info together and either PM it or hold onto it, as we need to make sure these items are in developement before posting them up.



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Re: Australian Defence Force suggestions.

Post by BloodBane611 »

I was poking around, here is what I found:
Vipir 2: Data Sheet

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Tac 2: Data sheet down the page

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These are actually the .308, but I thought having 360 degrees was a fair trade, considering the only difference is barrel diameter, the bolt and magazine.

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7.62 Minimi: Data sheet here

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My image search didn't turn up anything on the f88sa3, but my text search found this:
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I've got nothing on the EOS or AIROS either, couldn't find anything and didn't feel like digging.
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anglomanii
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Re: Australian Defence Force suggestions.

Post by anglomanii »

thanks, but we might keep this stuff of the main threads, i recently fried my HDD and lost almost everything i have been doing, i should be back up again soon, but i did lose a lot of one off items, that i was able to get locally, what we need to do is as a group keep building the knowledge base we have been working on.

thanks



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Tonnie
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Re: Australian Defence Force suggestions.

Post by Tonnie »

going off the one ref pic and only about 20 min work if that so super wip and lots of details need to be done
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Post by Z-trooper »

Just curious, but why spend time on a thermal sight?
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