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Scot wrote:In that case, why does the headshot still critically wound in 1? It's still useful to aim for the head, no matter what, unless you make shooting the head the same as the body.

McLuv wrote:No, it was worse in BF2. It wasn't even "BOOM, Headshot" because you could shoot people in the head with most weapons and they wouldn't even get wounded

EDIT: and by wounded I mean killed (but still revivable)

McLuv wrote:No, it was worse in BF2. It wasn't even "BOOM, Headshot" because you could shoot people in the head with most weapons and they wouldn't even get wounded

EDIT: and by wounded I mean killed (but still revivable)

503 wrote:Takes 4 pistol shots in the head at point blank range to wound someone in vanilla.

I would have to agree with implementing headshot kills though. In game, when coming across contact, you would usually aim where it's easiest, which is the biggest area, which is the chest. You usually won't have time to adjust your aim to the head, or else you would be dead. Without implementing headshot kills would be unrealistic and annoying. This would be especially annoying for snipers, who have to take out high priority targets such as officers. Without headshots, a medic would just come and revive the guy. Which means the sniper WILL HAVE to take him out AGAIN.

Human_001 wrote:Wonderful changes. Thank you for many of fixes/updates we all waited for.
But there is few things that concerns me. And are listed below. I know I have not played this update yet, but I can imagine because these changes are adressed using precise % and numbers.

Changes:
"-4Xzoom for deployed LMG."
4X zoom on iron PKM and Al Qud.

"-360 degree view for APC."
We should've removed it from Tank not adding it to other vehicles.

"-Only 2 cache at a time"
means Insurgent have less PKM and Al Quds.
New RPG for each cache means there is cache 4 RPG instead of current 3. So this is not concern.

"- increased Insurgent/Taliban SVD Dragunov mag count from 3 to 12."
12 magazine is too much IMO.

"- increased AKS74U recoil by 50% and deceased accuracy by 30%."
I can agree with bad acuracy and heavy recoil of this weapon. But 50% more recoil, no.

"- decreased AK47 accuracy - 30% less accurate than conventional army rifles."
Currently, AKS74U and AK47 has same single shot accuracy. Above change makes AKU74U and AK47 same accuracy. AK47 accuracy can not be that of same as AKS74U. Should be greater.

"-changed all LMG deployed deviation so it now takes eight seconds to settle, but they can be fired from all stances."
Even when Player is standing? that means prone deviation and recoil on standing position if player is still for 8 seconds?

"- changed Insurgent/Taliban RPG deviation - Increased settle time to 4 seconds (from 2). Accuracy reduced to 25% of what it was."
I think this is bad idea. RPG7 should be innacurate than current one but 25% of what it is now will give RPG7 grouping of about 4X3meter at 200meter? And biggest one is settle time. It is too long as of now. In Insurgency it should be fired quickly, increasing settle time further more for RPG7 and conventional LAT do not make any sense.

"- tweaked all recoil animations to be 'snappier' and make fully automatic fire slightly harder to aim with."
I know what this is like. We used to have this. I can't agree.

"- removed front passenger ability to fire weapon for all logistics/transport trucks."
Firing against enemy firing toward truck from vehicle window or throwing smoke for cover is needed IMO. This will totally make truck and it's crew literally 'sitting ducks'.


"- fixed Insurgent technicals and cars greatly reducing the ground damage taken."
Finally! (cry)

One that most concerns me is AK47 accuracy change. It feels as though we took step backward. As of now we use same accuracy for all same classes. that means M4, M16, even PPSH SMG has same accuracy at long range. Only specifically decreasing AK47 accuracy mirrors what was employed back in 0.75 and 0.8 where Insurgent weapons depicted bad-aim Insurgent fire instead of leaving it up to players. Current AK47 accuracy mirrors give all players what weapon will be in real life and leave the fight results to players.

GoreZiad wrote:If I've understood it right, there can only be 9 medics per team at any time, right? Does this apply to the LMG as well? Because it'll be everyones choice to have a scoped automatic lazor, and that'd be very bad Even thought there's 8 secs delay.

Leeu wrote:So with the amazing new medic system....

Say, a sniper/marksman/guy with a gun spots an officer leading his squad to location X to maybe setup a RP. Now as they're about to huddle and place a RP the sniper/marksman/guy with a fun shoots said officer in the head. Nice, but wait, NOW the sniper still has to either:

* shoot the medic immediately after, because he'd simply revive and heal up the SL

OR

* shoot the medic AND then shoot every other squad mate who's gonna pickup the medic kit AND then also shoot everyone they try to revive (remember we're killing everything twice nowadays)

OR

* shoot the officer a second time when he's revived

all the while trying to avoiding the incoming suppressive fire from the squad mates who saw this and maybe try to put out some suppressive fire of his own.


Maybe consider doubling all ammo loadouts then in 0.86?

head

Because we cant make the heart or femoral artery, etc its own specific hit area.... that's one reason
There's still some benefit to a head shot, no doubt about that, but we don't want it interfering with the medic system or the good squad cohesion.

Its a left over from EAs vBF2 making the headshot special