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Re: [Map] Umm Qasr (4km) [WIP]
Posted: 2012-01-06 21:49
by AFsoccer
'Xander[nl wrote:;1715883']I'll post this here as well so perhaps a dev could comment:
Are the armies definitive? It might be really cool to switch to USMC (or keep Brits and just use an Essex) and have them assault from a carrier. Think of it as Muttrah and Jabal combined. MEC would have some spawn points in the city but without any supplies or assets. They'd have to try and hold out with what they've got as long as possible untill reinforcements arrive.
Once the initial assault is over and the Marines have secured the harbor, heavy assets could be made available in a main base (a landing zone on the beach). Kind of like the airfield flag for the Germans on Silent Eagle.
So after a first 20-40 minutes of air/sea borne assault, the real battle starts with both armies bringing in heavy armor (and/or air) support. This would make it a truly unique map, instead of 'just another one'.
If any of you played BF3's Kharg Island on Rush mode, you'll know what I mean and how awesome this could be.
*prays its possible*
Yes, this is very possible.
Re: [Map] Umm Qasr (4km) [WIP]
Posted: 2012-01-06 23:48
by Rhino
To the above question, we already do that on a small scale on many maps, like on Muttrah the logi truck and supply depo are on a delay spawn after capping docks, and have done it on a large scale in our "Counter Attack" game mode in the past although it didn't work out too well then.
Re: [Map] Umm Qasr (4km) [WIP]
Posted: 2012-01-07 07:20
by pr|Zer0
I try to give armour enough room to manouver and also giving infantry cover using terrain and statics, so there will be open areas.
To the point, I still need some help on insurgency(on cache spawning system)...so Rhino or any other guy who has time/experience to make a tut on insurgency, will help a lot. I need insurgency help, cause this game mode will modify the static layout.
Oh, ive used warlord's palace as static, which was never used b4 on PR maps...is there a problem with that particular static??
Re: [Map] Umm Qasr (4km) [WIP]
Posted: 2012-01-07 07:37
by Rhino
All you need for INS to work is to make an ins game mode layer, and place caches as object spawners, much like how you spawn a vehicle all over the map in every single random location you want, as well as putting down main base flags, spawn points, vehicle spawns etc and the gamemode code will do the rest.
But tbh you shouldn't even bother with doing that in the early stage of development, that kinda thing is left to the final stages of development. All you need to do right now is develop areas you want to put caches in, with if they are a small place making sure the cache fits at the very most. GPO stuff comes later...
Re: [Map] Umm Qasr (4km) [WIP]
Posted: 2012-01-07 13:10
by pr|Zer0
[R-DEV]Rhino wrote:All you need for INS to work is to make an ins game mode layer, and place caches as object spawners, much like how you spawn a vehicle all over the map in every single random location you want, as well as putting down main base flags, spawn points, vehicle spawns etc and the gamemode code will do the rest.
But tbh you shouldn't even bother with doing that in the early stage of development, that kinda thing is left to the final stages of development. All you need to do right now is develop areas you want to put caches in, with if they are a small place making sure the cache fits at the very most. GPO stuff comes later...
I did that but i cannot get the ammocache in object spawner for whatever reason; i think i miss some objects in bf2e loadout. I wont bother now with that.
Re: [Map] Umm Qasr (4km) [WIP]
Posted: 2012-01-07 23:34
by Shovel
I like the idea of a border crossing on the map, it would make it unique.
The border on Caspian Border from BF3 is really cool looking, try to make it like that
Re: [Map] Umm Qasr (4km) [WIP]
Posted: 2012-01-07 23:44
by Rhino
Payne wrote:I did that but i cannot get the ammocache in object spawner for whatever reason; i think i miss some objects in bf2e loadout. I wont bother now with that.
look at other INS maps GPO.cons and see how they are done...
Re: [Map] Umm Qasr (4km) [WIP]
Posted: 2012-01-08 08:17
by pr|Zer0
[R-DEV]Rhino wrote:look at other INS maps GPO.cons and see how they are done...
I did that for basrah... you have to choose the object spawner from the pop-up list(for this instance, i do not have the ammo cache in the list, wich makes me think of a incomplete object listing)...but as you said, i still have a lot to do on statics
Re: [Map] Umm Qasr (4km) [WIP]
Posted: 2012-01-08 08:30
by AK47 WARRIOR
Payne i asked to put the marines in the map so can you do it & is it possible ?
Re: [Map] Umm Qasr (4km) [WIP]
Posted: 2012-01-08 08:33
by Rhino
Payne wrote:I did that for basrah... you have to choose the object spawner from the pop-up list(for this instance, i do not have the ammo cache in the list, wich makes me think of a incomplete object listing)...but as you said, i still have a lot to do on statics
ye its not on the list iirc, need to hit cancel, call its name, then put the ammo cache in the team 1 box manually.
Re: [Map] Umm Qasr (4km) [WIP]
Posted: 2012-01-08 11:16
by Psyrus
[R-DEV]Rhino wrote:ye its not on the list iirc, need to hit cancel, call its name, then put the ammo cache in the team 1 box manually.
I don't know if this is super bad form or something, but what I would do would be to put some sort of placeholder there [that you don't use for the rest of the map], then when you've placed all your placeholder caches, open the map up in notepad or wordpad or whatever and then do a find&replace operation, changing all the "X object" to "ammocache" type...
Pretty sure that's all you need to do?
Re: [Map] Umm Qasr (4km) [WIP]
Posted: 2012-01-09 01:33
by Rhino
all you need is to do is make one then copy and paste it all over the map
Re: [Map] Umm Qasr (4km) [WIP]
Posted: 2012-01-09 07:33
by pr|Zer0
[R-DEV]Rhino wrote:ye its not on the list iirc, need to hit cancel, call its name, then put the ammo cache in the team 1 box manually.
now its working...thx man
Re: [Map] Umm Qasr (4km) [WIP]
Posted: 2012-02-04 20:17
by Who Dares Wins
AK47 WARRIOR wrote:Payne i asked to put the marines in the map so can you do it & is it possible ?
Do we really need another USMC (or US Army for that matter) map? If anything the British could use another Insurgency map, I think they have Basrah and that's about it. Provided of course he isn't focusing entirely on AAS.
Re: [Map] Umm Qasr (4km) [WIP]
Posted: 2012-02-04 20:33
by Zemciugas
AK47 WARRIOR wrote:Payne i asked to put the marines in the map so can you do it & is it possible ?
Oh, God, no more. Even though we all love them but srsly, give other factions somewhere to play at. Pretty much half of the maps already feature us army or the usmc.
Re: [Map] Umm Qasr (4km) [WIP]
Posted: 2012-02-05 09:10
by pr|Zer0
Factions will remain as stated in the first post AAS - MEC vs GB;INS - MEInsurgents vs GB
Re: [Map] Umm Qasr (4km) [WIP]
Posted: 2012-02-13 08:13
by pr|Zer0
Updated 1st page
Re: [Map] Umm Qasr (4km) [WIP]
Posted: 2012-02-13 10:12
by J.F.Leusch69
its in its early stage so i suggest you rotate the entry map so that ingame north is RL north.
Re: [Map] Umm Qasr (4km) [WIP]
Posted: 2012-02-13 10:16
by pr|Zer0
i guess i can do that...roads need to be redone anyway
any suggestion on a easy way??
Re: [Map] Umm Qasr (4km) [WIP]
Posted: 2012-02-13 10:17
by Pvt.LHeureux
Are you like, working on this map from Iraq?