[New Faction Proposal] New Zealand Defence Force

[CoOlaiD]

i dont see the point, our armed forces are pretty insignificant and just like the aussie's.

[LtSoucy]

Then why do we have a canadia faction, there basically a cross between US Army gear and USMC gear ?

No its not, they use a ton of different stuff, take a better look. And I fully agree why make a faction with the same gear as another, go help the ADF faction and then maybe come back to it but not a good idea at the moment.

[Hauteclocque]

Nice, they use French weaponry !
Well, Coolaid, I think they mean that it look likes Australian Army. Your army is not the smallest, don't worry...
As have said some people, it would be better to help Australian Faction for the moment.

[Who Dares Wins]

Wow my first Faction proposal thats got upto 3 pages before been locked...

As for the "Help the ADF" argument why do we have the USMC and US Army? Why are we getting the PLAN and PLA?

To be honest, there isn't alot that the ADF and NZDF have in common 'cept several of their weapons that about half a dozen other countries use as well (Except the F88 ). People see the F88 and immedietly assume there clones of each other. The uniforms are different, they use different APC's (Granted it's similar but then half of the NATO countries use it as well), they use a different sidearm and anti-air, different support trucks etc. If it comes to it I can always donate the map to the ADF but i'd like to at least try and get this off the ground.

[MonkeySoldier]

To be honest, there isn't alot that the ADF and NZDF have in common 'cept several of their weapons that about half a dozen other countries use as well (Except the F88 ). People see the F88 and immedietly assume there clones of each other. The uniforms are different, they use different APC's (Granted it's similar but then half of the NATO countries use it as well), they use a different sidearm and anti-air, different support trucks etc.

And that might be the problem. All of that needs to be modelled. One could speed up a community mod more by helping one, instead of creating one. As said, there are already so many community mods that still need new models. And if people keep on (do not see this as an offense to you) creating new community factions which require a lot of modelling, the amount of work will only stack up.

[J.F.Leusch69]

maybe make a really nice map first, and than think about a new fraction which could use it, cos most fractions are lacking on maps, maps take a long development time. and if you think the ADF weapons could be used easily, than think about some points, the weapons are mostly not already in game and it is unknown when tonnie15 will be back to finish off the models and even than there is the export/code/etc stuff that needs to be done, furthermore you need voices which are a big problem for most of the new fractions. so my advice is to go back to your lovely editor and start a very nice map, you could donate it to the ADF fraction as a placeholder till the ZDF are finished. so please think about and this is not a offence !!!

good luck with your map

EDIT: the design plan does not work for me

[Tannhauser]

Then why do we have a canadia faction, there basically a cross between US Army gear and USMC gear ?

Let's just say I heard nothing of that ..

[SecondCandle]

I have to agree with most of the posts being made here. New Zealand forces are very similar to Aus forces (equipment anyway). I deally what I would love to see rather than seperate factions for NZ and Aus, combine them into one ANZAC force. Both countries support each other and work together in many operations anyway. We have a proud tradition of serving together. Why not modify the current ADF to include NZ equipment as well?

[Tonnie]

wat about modifying the current ADF mod to create an ANZAC mod, with ADF and NZDF forces working together, seeing as how a lot of ADF units such as the SAS have a kiwi unit with them

No ADF stays as is...

As for putting the NZ forces in i dont think its worth it tbh. You better off helping the ADF get there stuff done.

[SkaterCrush]

Then why do we have a canadia faction, there basically a cross between US Army gear and USMC gear ?

That made me lol so hard.

C7+C8 Canada's adaptation of the AR-15 family, quite a few differences.
CADPAT Camouflage, its so good the United States Marine Corps decided to use it.
Canadian LAV III's kick the USMC LAV's any day
Leopard 2A6>Abrams
The USMC doe not use the Eryx
Canada used the McMillan Tac-50 and the C14 sniper rifles
I could go on all day too, not ever a quarter done

canadia

That's what the kids say when they ask me where I'm from...it still makes me rofl

As much as I want more new factions, I don't think it would be worth it, as I've read most of their gear is very similar, and if you really want to work on something I'd go on ahead and work on the ADF project. They could always use a hand

[Tonnie]

i dont see the point, our armed forces are pretty insignificant and just like the aussie's.

The ADF is not insignificant... look at where we have been deployed over the past 5 years... Pretty much everywhere the US gos plus more so dont ever state that the Australian army is insignificant...

[Maxfragg]

come on, I just came back from NZ and your discussing about scrapping the apcs because they are too expensive, sorry but i really don't see a point adding the nz army

[HangMan_]

i'd b interested in helping if u want a sum1 to make maps. I was about to start a bamyan province map soon so if u want it for ur mod drop me a pm. Gonna use this image off google maps...



The blue lines are combat area. Map should be around 2km x 2km. Am considering expanding the original plan to make it a 4km.

Not familiar with Afghanistan or the province personally but i believe kiwibase to be in the top corner (marked by red 1) If any one knows the actual location (if im wrng) then please tell me

Red 2-4 are possible Taliban strongholds.

The map would follow an alternative layout. Would have to be insurgency game mode. I am also looking at developing a C&S version. The type of gameplay i am going for with this would be sporadic ground fighting in the clusters of houses. There are open spaces that making sniping into the villages a good option for the Taliban. This map would be like Operation Archer in the north (terrain wise) and then more like Korengal in the south. I think this would be a great combination allowing for different types of fighting depending on where the player is. Very little fighting will take place near Kiwibase, NZDF will hav to go out and "find" the taliban. a FOB and a ANPF police station will be placed into the map. They may/may not start off under NZDF control. depending on location i may hav the taliban hold the ANPF police station and the NZDF controling a capturable FOB. Still at very beginning stages tho. The famous bombed budha's would be just outside of the combat area to the north of Kiwibase.

Kiwi's would get sum light vehicles and possibly an NZLAV for support nothing too heavy seeing as it is only a PRT stationed there. Probably put a Huey in seeing as the RNZAF hav some. Would like to see a chinook in there too as they frequent the base, even tho they arent NZDF.

Taliban would get light vehicles i.e cars and mayb technicals.


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Drop me a PM if u are interested.

Cheers

[Tonnie]

Goodluck but urrm i doubt you will find some good modelers for your corse...

that is all....

[HangMan_]

come on, I just came back from NZ and your discussing about scrapping the apcs because they are too expensive

lol its not the price its because they dont fit in our C-130 planes... now that aunty helen is gone things are gna get better fr NZDF. Just waiting for the release of the defense white paper (eta november 2009).

[JERICHO777]

[R-DEV]tonnie15
Nice vid hahaha)))

[Panzerfire]

lol tonnie... that video was epic. Reminds me a bit of "Operation Canadian Bacon"

[Gu^n3r]

tonnie15;1066474']Goodluck but urrm i doubt you will find some good modelers for your corse...

that is all....

if only there were such a holiday lol

[Tonnie]

if only there were such a holiday lol

oh i celebrate it everyday lol

[Fenrir07]

...but i'd like to at least try and get this off the ground.

Go for it! Playing as Kiwi's would be great fun!