Your opinion on the new 0.9 rally point change?

[Zrix]

"I like it but the community is having a hard time using it"

Kinda self-explanatory really. I think it has actually improved squad cohesion, but on teams with lacking teamwork it has become harder to play a good INF round because of the lack of backup and FBs.

[myles]

it makes people try to stay alive and work with more TW

[gazzthompson]

;1287504']In my opinion the team sticking together as a whole team has increased has gone up but squadplay is just completely ruined which kinda reuins the whole PR experience since you can only talk to them 6 out of 32 players

with mumble, you can talk to all 32. dont see how squad play is ruined, but teamwork on a team scale has increased?

[GrimSoldier]

I believe it brings better realism to the game and the need for more FOB's but on most maps and insurgency especially rallies were basically the most important thing to keep the team going but now it just ruins it all.

[jermaindefoe]

with mumble, you can talk to all 32. dont see how squad play is ruined, but teamwork on a team scale has increased?

yes but unfortunately not every server uses mumble nor does every player. People need to look beyond tactical gamer and look at the majority of servers- most of which don't use mumble.

Also you can go on about it bringing greater realism to the game, but remember that it's a game. People play it to relax and unwind not be running around maps playing catchup with squad members.

[Myru]

"I love it", but unfortunately a big part of the community is having a hard time getting used to the new system.
The RPs as they are now, are slowing down the game, since your team has to take care of setting up FOBs and further assets to grant defence and the posibility to respawn closer to the frontline. In my opinion this is a good thing, since the team with better tactics (fob placement, assigning defensive and offensive squads) and better communication (squads working together, usage of the new radio system, armor & air support) is at the advantage more then ever in this mod.

Unfortunately, many players are still playing the game wrong, which is to be seen in the fact, that mumble still isn't used by more than 50% of the players on the servers i use to play on and that too many players squads are entering the fray without caring about support by other squads / team assets and fortified respawnpoints (fobs).

[Eddie Neculau[pr]]

Well i have been playing pr since 0.6 and i had some really good times but with this new release I am struggling to find the motivation to even load it up. I go on a server and after a few deaths followed by running in for ages from the main base I just get bored. Teamwork just hasn't been improved because squads are just pointless so the servers are all full of lonewolves.

[galeknight1]

"I like it but the community is having a hard time using it"

I think it's a change for the better, however squadmembers still don't value their lives and listen to SL order's as much as they should do, and squad-to-squad teamwork (on most servers) isn't very good though it is desprately needed.

[Anders1160]

I like the rally point change, though not in the insurgency games! - especially not in the map: "korengal valley" - Im getting tired of always having to spawn at main, where the hostile snipers and LMG's are pinning me down. I would like to have the rally point system changed in the insurgency - maps! PLEASE!

Anders1160

[jermaindefoe]

could we get some sort of dev input on the discussion?

[bad_nade]

could we get some sort of dev input on the discussion?

IIRC they've made very clear statement that rallies are not going to return. So I think this poll is just a crowd pleaser. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

[CodeRedFox]

could we get some sort of dev input on the discussion?

No...not to sound rude but this is for you all to talk and discus about. We gain community information from playing, participating, and thinking of new way WE would like it done. I wont lie and say we dont look at threads like this, but a thread like this wont solidify a change.

PR Dev's lurk more than you know

[DankE_SPB]

yes but unfortunately not every server uses mumble nor does every player. People need to look beyond tactical gamer and look at the majority of servers- most of which don't use mumble.

tbh its the other way round, servers should look at TG and increase their quality to take on par with it in terms of admining and average player "quality" and everybody will win from this

i would vote

I like it but the community is having a hard time using it

but i cant do it in this poll

[manligheten]

;1287642']Teamwork just hasn't been improved because squads are just pointless so the servers are all full of lonewolves.

I feel the same. That wasn't much of a problem before, but now many join squads just to get the good kits and then everyone wanders off. It very hard to keep your squad together. Being a SL is just a pain.

[fStar]

If it's true that the Devs have said proper rallies won't return, that's a shame for me because I find PR pretty boring now, but I guess if that's how they want things no amount of polls can change it.

With the new release infantry squadplay is in serious trouble on most servers. And I don't think the admins can just transform their server to the teamplay level of TG or the old RT when it was good, because there are a limited number of players who are that serious about their gaming. If they all just flock to a couple of servers because the average player doesn't know what they're doing with the new system, that's not a good thing at all.

[gazzthompson]

If it's true that the Devs have said proper rallies won't return, that's a shame for me because I find PR pretty boring now, but I guess if that's how they want things no amount of polls can change it.

With the new release infantry squadplay is in serious trouble on most servers. And I don't think the admins can just transform their server to the teamplay level of TG or the old RT when it was good, because there are a limited number of players who are that serious about their gaming. If they all just flock to a couple of servers because the average player doesn't know what they're doing with the new system, that's not a good thing at all.

Look at it at our point of view. We (66%~ of the people voted) like it and think its better than previous versions. We would be just as pissed if it was changed back as the current 34%~ that dont like it.

[00SoldierofFortune00]

[quote=""'[R-CON"]DankE_SPB;1287976']tbh its the other way round, servers should look at TG and increase their quality to take on par with it in terms of admining and average player "quality" and everybody will win from this[/quote]

TG has supporting members, I.E. members who pay to play (and admin) essentially, so they can afford that kind of admining as they have people who keep the server alive through their personal funds. Not every server can do that obviously or wants to.

Not everyone wants to jump in on mumble and all that other **** to play a game either. A lot of people along with myself don't always have a lot of time, so I just fire up PR and play and VOIP is more convenient and just as good.



[quote="gazzthompson""]Look at it at our point of view. We (66%~ of the people voted) like it and think its better than previous versions. We would be just as pissed if it was changed back as the current 34%~ that dont like it.[/quote]

Stop inflating numbers again dude, 66% do not like it.

37 voted- I Love it

20- I don't like it

I consider the "like it but the community is having a hard time using it" and "like it but it has issues [explain]" as the middle ground since they obviously have a problem with it or else they would have voted "I love it." Just throw out the 7 who voted "the game evolves every patch" as they don't care either way. If we go by the numbers in the other poll too, its closer to 60/40 or 50/50 because we don't know the other percentage from ingame for sure.

lol why? i would consider myself quite understanding. I am fully aware (as i have stated MANY times) that this poll dose not in anyway represent the full PR player base.

Then why do you keep harping the results of these polls as accurate, because that's essentially what you are implying.

[Koroush47]

Make it more like.... 2-3 minutes instead of just one

[Potilas]

I dont understand why you have to be close as ~30m away from FOB to get SL rallypoint reloaded? Why not 200m? Explane please.