what's your squad leading style?

[KingKong.CCCP]

I don't consider myself as a good SL, and I don't enjoy being one. But, lately I found out if you're a veteran player you must participate in a community activity, and that is - being a squad leader, leading new players.
If that mean babysitting, well, then babysitting it is. It's better to have 6 vets as officers/SLs, than all of them in a uber-squad.

Therefore, I don't think too much about if I'm authoritarian or delegation type, I just help them as good as I can not to wonder off the war zone, help them learn stuff, and I try to prevent them from doing something really stupid... but I'm cool with the knowledge it's a crappy squad.
At least it's a squad... doing something.

[Jarryd_455495]

I think i'm mix between delegation and authoritive, just like most.
I give an general order of objective then walk my sqd through how we should progress, eg: '*player* cover us while we cross the road then we'll cover you' or 'rope up here then move towards marked building.'

But when we hit contact i expect them to think for themselves abit however i do help them with markers and certain person orders, like '*player1* flank left around that building i have marked'

I generally don't kick unless i need a spot for another player and some guy is being an incompetent idiot, for example today i had someone disconnect, then someone called 'totalconfusion' joined, i said hello, no response, then he grabs sniper kit and runs off to a random building, i ignored him after i told him that maybe he shouldn't run off with an important kit over VoIP and sqdtxt (BTW we were INS, and no one else was using the sniper kit thats why i ignored him). Anyway he loses the kit and heads back to get it which ends up failing again, and thats when the guy reconnected so i kicked him.

I think my major flaw is i never want to leave someone behind (Leave No Man Behind). I usually stop and set up a good perimeter with my sqd till we get the guy up then proceed, which slows our progess and recks our momentum. (once got boged down for a good 5min because sniper shot one guy and had to smoke it up which half the sqd didn't understand which made us lose another guy, then another when we were running away out of the firing arc which made us stop again but by the end a good sqd)

edit: can anyone give a quick tip on how to get ppl to form up ready for a charge without waiting about 2min for 1 or 2 guys which are needed, preferablly in a polite'ish way? i did it once on kashan but they were just a good sqd.

[=]H[=CubCadet1972]

I think my major flaw is i never want to leave someone behind (Leave No Man Behind). I usually stop and set up a good perimeter with my sqd till we get the guy up then proceed, which slows our progess and recks our momentum. (once got boged down for a good 5min because sniper shot one guy and had to smoke it up which half the sqd didn't understand which made us lose another guy, then another when we were running away out of the firing arc which made us stop again but by the end a good sqd)

Sometimes, you have to press on and pick up the pieces afterwards. If you are in a situation that is too hot, retreating and rallying are the best actions. Other times pressing the attack is the only way out. Use those 5 minutes of wounded time to your advantage. I've been known to throw smoke on a wounded squadmate, and use him as bait to flank the tool coming to snatch his kit.

[Jarryd_455495]

H[=CubCadet1972;1376159']Sometimes, you have to press on and pick up the pieces afterwards. If you are in a situation that is too hot, retreating and rallying are the best actions. Other times pressing the attack is the only way out. Use those 5 minutes of wounded time to your advantage. I've been known to throw smoke on a wounded squadmate, and use him as bait to flank the tool coming to snatch his kit.

wow, thats any interesting tactic.
I've pushed on a bit but it's mainly to set up the perimeter and take out the enemy in the general area but with that situation it was abit hard especially when it was easy just to get them up because it was only sniper fire. I don't know maybe i should push on more.

offer still up for a tip on what to do with sqd members not making it to rally location prior to an attack.

[gazzthompson]

If players are slow and un-responsive, tell them to pull their finger out or kick em. its not worth the hassle.

[NuclearBanane]

TBH, when I play i expect every one to knwo what there doing and expect no lolly gagging but usually , no matter how i pic em, they find a way to cluster - SOmething - them selfs so 1 guy with and ak47 keeps then at one objective respawning and dieing over and over again.
So i only Command assets. And I'm an ***, and you'd better listen to me. When I say " Keep Moving " You do not stop. If I say " You got to defend this position " I don't care how you do it, Just keep the tank/asset alive and defend the position.
Any on you fails to have the balls to expose them selfs' for abit of armor on armor action is not worthy to be in my squad. Oh Yeah and People with NO BATTLE FIELD AWARENESS. My tanks should never ever be flanked by another tank from an area we just searched.

lol And I think I've rage quitted from squads so many times until I wind up with people who I've already played with, More or less most of the H members. That is when i use dto play PR alot.
-Nuke

[TheWhaleHunter]

I only squad lead when the original SL leaves the squad and the rest of the players are still enjoyable people that I want to keep playing with.

I'd say I fit into 'delegation'. I put up markers, tell them what kits not to bring and what assets not to use and make sure they don't go lone wolf.

I do however prefer to play with really strict SLs, although they are very hard to find. I play my best when I'm screamed at.

My very first experience of PR was in a squad that had a Falkland Wars veteran as SL. We played on Ehijod (sp?) and we where sneaking into the city using smoke as cover, which worked very well. He made it clear that we where not to shoot unless told so, not even when fired upon. One guy shot towards a wall and laughed when he heard this which earned him a brutal shouting. He then fired again, was kicked and then TKd by the SLs pistol.

[dtacs]

If players are slow and un-responsive, tell them to pull their finger out or kick em. its not worth the hassle.

Agreed. Had some scrub called XX0DR who simply couldn't follow orders. Told him once, twice, three times, kicked.

[K4on]

it depends on the people in my squad. if i know the sawgunner next to me, that he'll cover me automaticly when i cross the street, i don't have much to say. just explaining my plan, and the task for every single squadmate.

then there are people, u have to tell'em everything: go to this cover, throw a grenate, don't shoot if u can't take a good shot, surpress the enemy while ur teammate is unser fire. in this case i am a control freak.

[Pvt.Jumper]

Dictatorship FTW!

My squad is my weapon - I am the trigger finger.

Most of the time, I'm leading a defensive group of players and simply hold down a flag until the rest of the team can safely attack. Usually, we dig inside a building and once there, my role as a SL kicks in. Quickly assigning what does what and who looks where etc. Just in a few minutes we rack up 25+ kills, 0 deaths. I mean, every time we defend a building, only takes us a couple of minutes to rack up some easy kills!

I suck at rushing. If ya see me doing initiating a rush tactic - expect for the worse - we will fail.

Oh and, choppers ain't my friends either. ALL the time my squad travels in a helo - we die. Every single time. Unless its Orpall flying. His sexy upside down huey moves are sexy!

[Tiger1]

there can never be any doubt about who is in charge. Never. The squad leader leads his men and delegates to his 2ic.

[Rudd]

there can never be any doubt about who is in charge. Never. The squad leader leads his men and delegates to his 2ic.

A leader can be wrong, but never indecisive eh?

[Jigsaw]

I always SL for my clan, it is rare for me to SL pubs so i'll base it off of my main experience.

Because I know my clanmates well and trust them to know what they're doing most of the time I tend to assign kits, set a direction and idea in our minds and then go for that. This I think puts me in the sheep category, although I will give them a piece of my mind when they get detached from the squad, however when we get into a contact I find myself turning into an authoritarian and im quite good at reeling off a quick string of orders when we get into contact.

Something like SM 1 flank right with SM 2, SM 3 get your SAW and suppress.

I tend to do that whoever im SLing, but because in the build up to the contact we're moving as sheep it often doesn't work because the squad has got spread out and we can't bring enough firepower to win the contact. This I think is compounded by my own natural tendency to go in a bit rambo so a lot of the time I think I need someone else to rein me in, which is why I usually join up as an SM when im in a server on my own.

One thing that I love to have is a 2ic. Usually when SLing my clanmates thats easy to have but pubs I find a lot harder because not that many of them tend to man up and take that role, another part of why I go SM when on my own. A 2ic makes pretty much every part of SLing about 10x easier, freeing your mind up to work out where to position your squad and sometimes to just go ahead and do some killing yourself in the knowledge that you know your second has your back. For this reason I often find that having the medic as 2ic is highly advantageous; he rarely goes down, can command people when needed and often tends to call in other SMs who are being retarded and running off from the squad.

[hades198]

Authoritarian.

no doubt about that

[myles]

I get angry alot if mr squad members dont do what i say i find it kinda scares them into doing what you say and they try to suck up to you then. But its bad if your squad gets complety wiped out like then the morale starts to drop and ppl start to leave. One of the biggest things is MORALE with your squad members to have them all to work toghetour good effficntley

[Jarryd_455495]

I get angry alot if mr squad members dont do what i say i find it kinda scares them into doing what you say and they try to suck up to you then. But its bad if your squad gets complety wiped out like then the morale starts to drop and ppl start to leave. One of the biggest things is MORALE with your squad members to have them all to work toghetour good effficntley

Yeah definitely. Not sighing everytime you get wiped out really helps and boosts the sqd's trust in you, tested it and i think it works.

Also keeping a updated plan will do the trick to, just gives them a purpose again after you get wiped out, especially plans of revenge

I'ld like to add as well that you need to talk to EVERY member of your sqd frequantly to make them feel involved, i've been through it before with other SL and i just felt like i was usless and that i should just shut up and follow which lead me to being very sloppy and not try my best.

edit: sorry for offtopic

[Web_cole]

A leader can be wrong, but never indecisive eh?

One idea that always stuck with me after reading the Sharpe books was "any decision, even a wrong one, is better than no decision at all"

[goguapsy]

I got to the conclusion that a good SL is authoritarian, gives loads of orders (but try to keep them simple) and if something funny happens... LOL. Seriously, act serious but LOL when the time is right.

[Farks]

I guess it's a mix between authoritarian and delegation. A good leader needs to be a participant, and not pretend he's above everybody else with lots of screaming and yelling. And he needs to trust his guys for the squad to work properly.

[myles]

I thinks Sheep should be renamed to chinese parliment. Its a term used for evryone to have a say in what the squad should do the SAS use it