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Re: Project Reality v0.86 Upcoming Patch Release
Posted: 2009-05-20 23:00
by Anubis
will be very intressting to see how the new medic works. Among other things
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Re: Project Reality v0.86 Upcoming Patch Release
Posted: 2009-05-21 03:05
by TomDackery
6 more commander "Blank Spotted" markers, and are those Lynx's on Qin Ling I see?
Can't wait for the Rocket Pod LittleBird carnage on Karbala.
Loving it, DEVs.
Re: Project Reality v0.86 Upcoming Patch Release
Posted: 2009-05-21 07:33
by Snazz
TomDackery wrote:are those Lynx's on Qin Ling I see?
I think they're already on Qinling on one of the layers.
TomDackery wrote:Can't wait for the Rocket Pod LittleBird carnage on Karbala.
Huh?
Re: Project Reality v0.86 Upcoming Patch Release
Posted: 2009-05-21 12:43
by evya
White Rock wrote:Headshots are no longer nessary with the new system.
Just aim at the dead guys body, wait for the revive and bam you get him.
Sure you will not be able to get them as a sniper if they smoke themselfes and stay in cover and you shoot one of them...
But thats a good thing. It brings a counter to the sniper, a pretty intuitive counter. If you get sniped: smoke,revive and dont step out of cover.
More then half the time peapole WONT counter your antics and will just revive leading to you getting an instant kill on the guy, then proceding to snipe more of the squadmembers.
TL;DR "Killshots" are still in as long as the enemy dosent smoke or if you are snipering over a wall (cant see the body)
in the start after patch will get realised you are 100% right, but after a month or two people will start understanding what to do, and the rifle will be 99.99% useless, its the only weapon which needs headshot, all others doesn't, as you will need at least 3 shots, and even that is if you headshot in the first two... especially now that insurgents dont get killed, and you are more restirected to stick with your squad every passing patch[which is good]
Re: Project Reality v0.86 Upcoming Patch Release
Posted: 2009-05-21 13:43
by TopeH
This patch sounds too good to be true, but will the PKM and RPK get a scope on them too?
Or how is it going to work out?
Re: Project Reality v0.86 Upcoming Patch Release
Posted: 2009-05-21 13:49
by DankE_SPB
TopeH wrote:This patch sounds too good to be true, but will the PKM and RPK get a scope on them too?
Or how is it going to work out?
conventional MGs get zoom with ironsights until optics made for them, insurgency and chechen PKMs and RPKs will stay the same
Re: Project Reality v0.86 Upcoming Patch Release
Posted: 2009-05-21 14:01
by x.trEm*e
Dr2B Rudd wrote:I disagree there, if everyone played hte game with patience and treating their own life as more important than one kill, then the game would be very different.
if you play for kills and k\d ratio you better find another game
Then turn on 1 life mode: you got 1 life, no respawn, no medic and headshots
It´s like ArmA-Pro-Night event then: you get killed, and bam youre kicked off the server for 2 hours...
Why do these events happen rarely? Ehrm very rarely, like once in 2 years? Thats a good question...
More then half the time peapole WONT counter your antics and will just revive leading to you getting an instant kill on the guy, then proceding to snipe more of the squadmembers.
Never, even now ppl smoke, shoot you and do hell of a thing to stop you from hitting the guy reviving. I at least do only get half of the kills counted after all this reviving stuff... Kinda now I hope Ill manage to kill them all twice in 60 seconds... What a tactical solution
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Re: Project Reality v0.86 Upcoming Patch Release
Posted: 2009-05-21 19:07
by White Rock
Never, even now ppl smoke, shoot you and do hell of a thing to stop you from hitting the guy reviving. I at least do only get half of the kills counted after all this reviving stuff... Kinda now I hope Ill manage to kill them all twice in 60 seconds... What a tactical solution
Well in the new patch: shoot the guy twice! It all takes about 16 seconds!
Say you spot a squad with binocs.
Deploy:8seconds.
Fire. 2 seconds.
Take aim. 4 seconds.
And then the revive comes and BAM you got yourself a kill!
If they smoke the body just shoot some other guy foolishly trying to find you with his binocs. Then try to score a revive kill on him!
Also remember that if shot people react 2 ways.
1. Hit the dirt.
2. try to find the shooter.
3. Sprint for cover.
Both 1 and 2 are excellent opportunities since they might not be in cover and they're probably stationary.
As i said, people can fully counter snipers with smoke and perfect cover. but they wont ALWAYS smoke and they wont always cover.
Just because something is possible in theory doesn't mean it's actually doable or probable.
Re: Project Reality v0.86 Upcoming Patch Release
Posted: 2009-05-21 21:49
by thunderway
in my opinnion this medic stuff is maded for SNIPER'S only thats all :/ someone who love to be sniper will love much when he will go 50+ kills .... now meaning of the sniper / marksman will grove in sqad
edit : if u still dont kno what im talking about
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Re: Project Reality v0.86 Upcoming Patch Release
Posted: 2009-05-21 21:56
by fuzzhead
dont worry thunderway, PR is not a sniper simulator, they are definitely support units and PR gameplay will never revole around them (no matter how many players ***** and moan otherwise
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Re: Project Reality v0.86 Upcoming Patch Release
Posted: 2009-05-21 23:03
by McBumLuv
thunderway wrote:in my opinnion this medic stuff is maded for SNIPER'S only thats all :/ someone who love to be sniper will love much when he will go 50+ kills .... now meaning of the sniper / marksman will grove in sqad
edit : if u still dont kno what im talking about
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What? Medic changes were made in order to address the way they always ended up being wayyy too spammy, and how people were careless with their lives because you simply needed to be revived within a few seconds and were back to optimal fighting condition in less than a minute.
While it still ignores some aspects of the problem (reviving after having a 7.62 sized bullet fly through your brain at the speed of sound is unrealistic and if anything
bad for gameplay, no matter how you put it), the changes are at least steps forward.
PR has done it's very best at ignoring the snipers the majority of the time. Since they've taken away the advantage of having a spotter, and have left zeroing and ballistics it at a level where any fool that can point the crosshairs and wait 8 seconds can perform as well as the next person.
Nerfing the kit doesn't make the problem of kit missusage disappear, it worsens it but makes it less apparent. When snipers get
real zeroing and ballistics requiring some technical knowledge, and through that need spotters to both find target ranges and lase, then their role will be much more refined, and use "properly".
Re: Project Reality v0.86 Upcoming Patch Release
Posted: 2009-05-21 23:57
by AgentJadeD
So is the public release going to be 0.869?
Re: Project Reality v0.86 Upcoming Patch Release
Posted: 2009-05-22 03:04
by CAS_117
That's some win.
Re: Project Reality v0.86 Upcoming Patch Release
Posted: 2009-05-22 03:17
by waldo_ii
I read the article here. It says that the optics that the Marines purchased are Trijicon ACOGs, not ELCAN optics.
Re: Project Reality v0.86 Upcoming Patch Release
Posted: 2009-05-22 04:06
by fuzzhead
just fyi, Elcan is on the M249 because it was the scope ready to go at the time... all factions LMG will be given the appropriate scopes in upcoming versions...
Re: Project Reality v0.86 Upcoming Patch Release
Posted: 2009-05-22 04:10
by ReaperMAC
Aren't ACOGs already in-game and ready to use?
Just giving you a hard time fuzzhead...
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Re: Project Reality v0.86 Upcoming Patch Release
Posted: 2009-05-22 05:20
by thebeanie
Looking forward to the new release
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Re: Project Reality v0.86 Upcoming Patch Release
Posted: 2009-05-22 15:42
by snooggums
Collaborator spawn time is still way to long (2 mins). People should not have to look at a screen for that long under regular circumstances.
The duration should only be that long if arrested or if the Collaborator commits suicide. If killed by the enemy they should have the same re-spawn as everyone else. Make them restricted like regular medics if the worry is about them being used as shields, then there won't be too many of them. With a high re-spawn time there are barely any of them if any at all since missing a ladder is 5 minutes of death since there is no one else playing Collaborator to revive you.
Re: Project Reality v0.86 Upcoming Patch Release
Posted: 2009-05-23 06:22
by QCRulzz
You have got to be kidding me. Removed LB's from qwai??? Time to jump off a bridge, really. Removed tanks from kuffrah, qwai, what about kashan, quiling and all the others? Let's all walk. Come on, qwai will now epicly suck. Think about removing LB's twice.
Re: Project Reality v0.86 Upcoming Patch Release
Posted: 2009-05-23 07:24
by Polden
QCRulzz wrote:You have got to be kidding me. Removed LB's from qwai??? Time to jump off a bridge, really. Removed tanks from kuffrah, qwai, what about kashan, quiling and all the others? Let's all walk. Come on, qwai will now epicly suck. Think about removing LB's twice.
How about you wait and see what it is like before you question the actions.
On another note, I cannot wait to be able to select iron sights as an Officer, great work on that. Also the induction of automatic rifleman upon spawn will no doubt benifit those who know how to equip their squads.
Looking to be an interesting update!