]CIA[ Kokan & Hookers (North America)

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Re: ]CIA[ Kokan & Hookers (North America)

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FatalWaffles wrote:Thanks for the feedback, Squirrel.



Damnit, Anti. Read this: https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f29-pr ... -read.html
Am illiterate.
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Re: ]CIA[ Kokan & Hookers (North America)

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Murphy wrote:(Nothing personal against you at all Psyrus, I just really see a shit storm brewing if that line of thought is applied to the rules)
You make some good points... Back when I played on bigD it was pretty much a playerbase of not more than maybe 100-150 players total, so everyone kinda knew each other and it was a rather tight-knit community. I see what you mean that it wouldn't really work on the global servers that attract players from pretty much every creed and age range.

Again, that was just my 'ideal' world, not anything that I think is particularly feasible. I do miss the days though when there were no transport squads and my squad needed a chopper ride, I could just spawn in at main, grab the chopper, ferry them (and others) around until the chopper wasn't needed anymore, regroup with the squad and carry on my way :(
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Re: ]CIA[ Kokan & Hookers (North America)

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What is happening!?!? I've been trying to play on the CIA server for the past two days and every time I go to play... its full! 100/100! Must be back luck on my part haha
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Re: ]CIA[ Kokan & Hookers (North America)

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LOL, come on TS, we can kick some idlers if ya need a spot. (IF there are idlers :P )
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Re: ]CIA[ Kokan & Hookers (North America)

Post by NyteMyre »

I just played on your server and made a Flying squad early in the game. I had flown transport the previous map and wanted to continue. So i made a squad called "Fly". It was the 3rd squad in the team. I got a pilot kit and went into the blackhawk.

Suddenly, squad 5 which was called "Transport" started making threats to me that i should get out because i was stealing. And then they reported me for asset steal. Present admin (don't know who...raffy?) instantly kicked me. I rejoined the server and said that my squad was made earlier and that the guys who reported me lied about asset stealing.

Now, what was the admins response:
"LOL, TOUGH LUCK".

That's not really a mature or responsible answer.

What's even worse is that i joined another squad and just went with them. 10 to 15 minutes later i got banned from the server without warning.
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Re: ]CIA[ Kokan & Hookers (North America)

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NyteMyre wrote:I just played on your server and made a Flying squad early in the game. I had flown transport the previous map and wanted to continue. So i made a squad called "Fly". It was the 3rd squad in the team. I got a pilot kit and went into the blackhawk.

Suddenly, squad 5 which was called "Transport" started making threats to me that i should get out because i was stealing. And then they reported me for asset steal. Present admin (don't know who...raffy?) instantly kicked me. I rejoined the server and said that my squad was made earlier and that the guys who reported me lied about asset stealing.

Now, what was the admins response:
"LOL, TOUGH LUCK".

That's not really a mature or responsible answer.

What's even worse is that i joined another squad and just went with them. 10 to 15 minutes later i got banned from the server without warning.
Please register on our forums and submit a ban appeal at ]CIA[ Gaming if you wish to dispute a ban.

Edit: I see you have already done so.
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Re: ]CIA[ Kokan & Hookers (North America)

Post by NyteMyre »

I'm here giving feedback about your itchy triggerfinger on the kick button.

If you don't agree with my squadname (which wasn't a problem the round before that btw), then you should have told me. Instead, i got badmouthed by some kids, reported by said kids, they even tried to TK me (lucky for them, BH has bulletproof glass) and kicked before the admin even checked if the report was justified. No, it was just !r => kick.

Appearently, i got kicked for stealing the APC asset, which was basically commanded by the other squad i joined. I just suggested i could drive it.
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Re: ]CIA[ Kokan & Hookers (North America)

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NyteMyre wrote:I'm here giving feedback about your itchy triggerfinger on the kick button.

If you don't agree with my squadname (which wasn't a problem the round before that btw), then you should have told me. Instead, i got badmouthed by some kids, reported by said kids, they even tried to TK me (lucky for them, BH has bulletproof glass) and kicked before the admin even checked if the report was justified. No, it was just !r => kick.

Appearently, i got kicked for stealing the APC asset, which was basically commanded by the other squad i joined. I just suggested i could drive it.
I won't speak about the punishment that was given as here isn't the place.

I will say however that your squad name, "Fly", doesn't allow you to reserve any assets. It doesn't clearly communicate the asset which you intend to reserve while the name "Transport" does. Your squad from when you took the APC also didn't have permission to take the APC (according to the person who made the report for asset stealing).

If you could direct any further conversation to our website that would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: ]CIA[ Kokan & Hookers (North America)

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Hello, I am someone who used to play a lot of PR and recently have tried to get back into it. In fact this is my first post on the forum in quite a long time.
Unfortunately I just had an experience on your server that is putting me off greatly. This happened only half a hour ago at roughly 23:30 GMT. I'm guessing 18:30/19:30 the servers local time. The server was on Operation Dragonfly. I was on the British team.

Myself and a friend joined the server and had a look at what we should do, all inf squads were full with room in the APC and tank squad. However the APC squad was locked and all members were using an asset, a scimitar and warrior. There was one warrior left at base and my friend and I thought we would use it to support infantry, we tried to join the four man APC squad but it was locked so we joined the tank squad.

Within five minutes we were being told to leave the warrior by the APC squad members in a rather rude manner. I responded with a compromise, we will join the tank squad and use the scimitar as it is a light tank/armoured recon vehicle and return the APC no problems since they clearly didn't want anyone outside their group in their squad. This was completely ignored by that squad.

This squads leader then starts typing on the chat to get me kicked for stealing assets, the admin who I won't name publicly made no effort to look into the circumstances and replied with I can't kick them if I don't know who. This implied to me I was about to be kicked from the server for no good reason over something stupid when one group of players were unwilling to even respond to or cooperate with another group of players (My friend and I).

I had only moved 50 meters from main and was not going to continue until the issue was resolved either way. When it was clear to me that it wasn't going to be in any decent manner I simply left the vehicle and then disconnected.
It was not the sort of attitude I expect from PR players to be bullish and uncooperative. The admin at the time appeared to have no desire to truly see what was going on and instead responded to who shouted the loudest. And frankly this tarnished my view of your server.

Now I don't mean to bash the admin at the time, I know what it is like to admin a PR server having done that myself a few years ago especially a busy one. But the fact I was completely ignored and the admin sounded like they had no time to figure out the situation simply isn't right.

Normally I would let things like this slide, PR like any game misunderstandings occur. However given that I have less time to devote to it and that the server selection isn't what it was a bad experience is really off putting.

I hope this feedback is constructive and prevents such misunderstandings in future.

TLDR

I will outline it simply as admins not investigating circumstances and players intimidating me and my friend by saying we were rule breaking so they can hoard all assets to themselves despite not having the manpower to use them and even using ones seemingly inappropriate to their role. Resulting in a poor experience for two people who wanted nothing more than to work together with others.
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Re: ]CIA[ Kokan & Hookers (North America)

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thedoombringer0 wrote:Hello, I am someone who used to play a lot of PR and recently have tried to get back into it.
I don't know what the official server response is... but welcome to PR in 2014 [guh, asset rules combined with squad locking burns me up]

Anyway, what I do in that situation is rather than join an inappropriate squad for the asset, is use the !r function to report the locked APC squad that is hoarding unused assets. They'll be forced to unlock [I should hope] then you guys could've joined them.

As for the admin not investigating thoroughly enough, chances are that they were in an asset themselves and were perhaps fed up with the bitching at that moment :p
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Re: ]CIA[ Kokan & Hookers (North America)

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'[R-CON wrote:Psyrus;1981065']I don't know what the official server response is... but welcome to PR in 2014 [guh, asset rules combined with squad locking burns me up]

Anyway, what I do in that situation is rather than join an inappropriate squad for the asset, is use the !r function to report the locked APC squad that is hoarding unused assets. They'll be forced to unlock [I should hope] then you guys could've joined them.

As for the admin not investigating thoroughly enough, chances are that they were in an asset themselves and were perhaps fed up with the bitching at that moment :p
Thanks!

It burns me up too, I'm used to servers that don't allow locked squads at all. However as far as I was aware they were allowed on that server, so I felt as if I couldn't do much.

Just hope its taken as feedback, the whole situation felt against what I always thought PR was about. Strangers working together.
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Re: ]CIA[ Kokan & Hookers (North America)

Post by Cancer_Clique »

Sometimes the locked squad is necessary, for the most part in my experience not every single person out there is trying to work for the same goal. So it is necessary to ensure that public players who are just trying to use your squads assets IE joining a squad to steal a sniper kit or a Machine gun which could have been used for the squad, and then quitting the squad. If we spent all day reporting all the ******** in the game it would impede the admin and disrupt the game play. It is better to just lock and wait for people to appeal in public chat that they want to join, and if you are a sensible squad leader you will open the squad, but i don't speak for all squad leaders.
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Re: ]CIA[ Kokan & Hookers (North America)

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Guys if there is an issue, and an admin isn't responding, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE come to our teamspeak. There are usually other admins there who can get in touch with an admin who is in game.

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Re: ]CIA[ Kokan & Hookers (North America)

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I feel like the whole "not being invited" to a locked squad thing is sort of a hurt feelings issue. I say just get over it and wait until the round is over or spend your time contributing to the team in other ways, or just pick up a rifle and join the infantry. The only issue I would have is when people play on one side of OPFOR and when the round is over they are supposed to swap to BLUFOR and you find a bunch of Admins swapped themselves or select players back over to BLUFOR which causes me or my friends in my group to switch back over to OPFOR separating people in squads, which in essence causes people to whine and ultimately disrupt game play. Next time this happens I will hop on your TS and discuss it like you recommended.
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Re: ]CIA[ Kokan & Hookers (North America)

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Delfer wrote:And the bottom line is, if you're in the middle of a match trying to keep your APC alive and talk to SL's, you don't have much patience for some newcomers who want an APC. Should've just made an inf squad and waited until the next round, or went commander.
Did you read his post properly? As far as I can tell, all 9 squad slots were taken, the inf squads were all full and he was playing with his friend, so they needed 2 slots in a squad.

'Reserving' an APC due to some feeling of superiority/******* factor doesn't cut it as an excuse, we have 50 players a side, people need to grow up and learn to share.
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Re: ]CIA[ Kokan & Hookers (North America)

Post by FatalWaffles »

It is a common practice for an asset squad to leave one asset at main as a backup if the one they are using at the time gets blown up. Its not there for anyone to use just because it isn't being manned that second.

If you want to use the asset and you can't get into the squad you can ask the SL to unlock and tell him that you and your friend want to help. They don't need to unlock if they don't want to. You could also ask them for permission to use the asset as their squad is currently claiming it. Again, they don't need to give you permission to use it if they don't want to. If you take it without permission it is stealing assets and you can be punished for it.

In a perfect world everyone would get along and share assets and we wouldn't have any issue with it. We don't live in a perfect world and the PR player base isn't perfect. Some people are very cooperative and are willing to share, others aren't.
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Re: ]CIA[ Kokan & Hookers (North America)

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apparently a bunch of servers went down due to ddos, including this one with me in it. anyone know anything about this?
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Re: ]CIA[ Kokan & Hookers (North America)

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HughJass wrote:apparently a bunch of servers went down due to ddos, including this one with me in it. anyone know anything about this?
As far as I can tell we did not get DDoS'd, at least not directly. It would appear that our host is having some sort of network issue. It could also be an issue with our server. I'll update this post if I find out anything more

I'm curious what other servers supposedly went down due to a DDoS. Mind sharing? This thread isn't really the place for it but a PM would be okay.
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