DogACTUAL wrote:Straw man fallacy. I never said make the whole game design like RO or RS and use them as a blueprint, i said maybe get a similar DMG system.
I wasn't sure if it would even be a good idea, that's why i worded it as a qestion. Just a quick idea i had, didn't analyze it for hours before i posted it.
How am I straw-manning an argument when you brought that shit into play? We've already had enough with 7.62 one-shotting everybody, we don't need all calibers one-shotting.
Also lol
"Hi, I'm Dog_Actual, today I try to make an argument/a suggestion that I haven't thought through, please don't provide feedback on it because I myself am not sure."
If you don't want feedback, don't write. If you haven't thought something through, don't write.
I also said 1 or 2 hit, so battle rifles would be a one hit incap and assault rifles a 2 hit incap. pistols would be like 3. You make it sound like i said every weapon no matter the cartridge 1 hit incap.
Is it an option to make a model like RO or RS where every gun is a one or two hitter, so it doesn't really matter if guns are OP?
You fucking what mate?
Also wouldn't medics become more important with that kind of a system, where you can't just patch yourself after being hit?
No. More Bullet Damage=More Tactical is a best an oversimplification. The game needs to be build around it. If I can one-hit a player, I'll spray bullets wildly because that increases my chances. If I have to hit 2,3 or 4 I have to be more thoughtful of how and when I engage because I can't rely on the off-chance oneshot.
You talk about realistic combat feel. For me realistic combat feel would be firefights at longer ranges where suppressive fire is utilized mostly and most of the shots miss, but when they hit, they hit hard like IRL.
Or firefights at close ranges where many shots hit and the outcome is decided very quickly. So no taking two hits and then just hopping around the corner to patch, unless maybe body armour is hit.
First of all, you have very little knowledge of combat. I don't have my own first-hand experience either(thankfully!), but I have at least been taught the techniques and the how-to to a limited degree.
Secondly it is near-impossible to design a game around RL properties. We have no fear of death, we fear losing our playtime instead. That's why we take chances in game and none in reality. To me it is Perfectly Acceptable to make LMGs and GPMGs powerhouses that can mow down several people(the former in CQB even) instead of a purely or largely suppressive element because their true combat value cannot be replecated ingame yet we can't do a game without them. If you play PR for realisim's sake you've been mistaken. You're playing a game with realistic apparel and nothing else.
About sniper rifles vs G3:
Sniper rifle is made for long range engagement where it shits on the G3 accuracy, so it still has an advantage over it.
Except it doesn't matter because the person is just hurting a bit, goes behind cover, medic bag comes around and the muppet goes back to looking around the corner.
I played Sniper on Ulyanovsk recently, distance about 350, maybe 400m. I had to go for headshots to take them out, but good luck hitting a head at that distance with 170 ping and an unclear bullet drop. I fired, give or take, 15 rounds, 12 hit, 2 which didn't look like they registered server-side and 3 headshots. I was in the same place for a good 15 minutes(!) and they kept looking at me not feeling a thing.
10/10 update
Iknow the 3dac staff have more access to this type of information