Tanks losing gun to one frontal AP hit

[hairyballs]

Love when i shoot first in tank then get hit and our gun goes down to a front shot. Epic. Love it when 1 lat to the front disables tracks, gun, coax and smoke launchers. Epic. Love opening crates on CSGO, better RNG rates than this epic feature.

[Mats391]

Smoke launchers are not meant to be disabled. If it happened to you in a vehicle, please create a bug report.

[hairyballs]

just remove the feature entirely

[PBAsydney]

Imagine if tanks couldn't track the gun of other tanks. It would remove the stupid meta of camping engine off because first shot always wins unless RNG saves you.

Combine that with the new gunner lag compensation (which is amazing btw). The tank pushing would actually have a chance if the defending tank is not perfectly angled and tank vs tank might be a lot less static and boring than it is now if you didn't always have to worry about losing your god damn gun to one hit.

[CAS_ual_TY]

Make only ATGMs track vehicles but with 100% probability. ATGM front = Gun Tracked, ATGM side = Tracks tracked.

- Tank v Tank is fun again
- TOWs now are a threat without killing the tank at all times (but making it rtb)
- HAT now is a threat, being immobilized might mean death
- No RNG

[Nate.]

Make only ATGMs track vehicles but with 100% probability. ATGM front = Gun Tracked, ATGM side = Tracks tracked.

- Tank v Tank is fun again
- TOWs now are a threat without killing the tank at all times (but making it rtb)
- HAT now is a threat, being immobilized might mean death
- no RNG

Did you consider vehicle (tank)-based ATGMs in this argument?

ATGM enemy tank -> gun tracked -> finish him -> tank vs tank is fun again (?)

[PBAsydney]

Did you consider vehicle (tank)-based ATGMs in this argument?

ATGM enemy tank -> gun tracked -> finish him -> tank vs tank is fun again (?)

Might actually be a good thing, since there are a lot of cons related to driving around with ATGM loaded.

- Harder to shoot aircraft
- Longer flight time than AP
- Bouncing / getting hit might ruin your shot

[CAS_ual_TY]

Did you consider vehicle (tank)-based ATGMs in this argument?

ATGM enemy tank -> gun tracked -> finish him -> tank vs tank is fun again (?)

seems to add a skill-based risk-reward tactic.

made an official suggestion
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/showth ... ost2202832

[PBAsydney]

Quick solution to this is make it so tanks can't lose their gun unless HP drops below 60%. Thus front AP won't take gun down unless tank is already damaged.

[AlonTavor]

Quick solution to this is make it so tanks can't lose their gun unless HP drops below 60%. Thus front AP won't take gun down unless tank is already damaged.

Was actually reduced from 80% to 65% yesterday.
We're thinking later on of maybe delaying gun disabling - So if your gun gets disabled you can still operate it for a minute while some alarm on the UI is warning you about it.

The reason the RNG stuff stays is that we want LATs to be at least somewhat effective against Tanks but rarely be able to actually destroy them. With delaying gun-disabling there'll be no RNG in tank fights.

There's still no easy way to figure out what type of projectile hit the vehicle. I do have a working proof of concept server hook for it but I rather finish other things first.

[PBAsydney]

Was actually reduced from 80% to 65% yesterday.
We're thinking later on of maybe delaying gun disabling - So if your gun gets disabled you can still operate it for a minute while some alarm on the UI is warning you about it.

The reason the RNG stuff stays is that we want LATs to be at least somewhat against Tanks but rarely destroy them. With delaying gun-disabling there'll be no RNG in tank fights.

There's still no easy way to figure out what type of projectile hit the vehicle. I do have a working proof of concept server hook for it but I rather finish other things first.

Delaying the tracking is actually a genius way of solving this.

[CAS_ual_TY]

Delaying the tracking is actually a genius way of solving this.

+++++++++++++

[Fastjack]

There's still no easy way to figure out what type of projectile hit the vehicle

gerat_panzerfaust60_projectile = damaging material 3706

T-90 armor materials:

ObjectTemplate.mapMaterial 0 Front 30
ObjectTemplate.mapMaterial 1 Side 29
ObjectTemplate.mapMaterial 2 Top 28
ObjectTemplate.mapMaterial 3 Rear 28
ObjectTemplate.mapMaterial 4 Wreck 60
ObjectTemplate.mapMaterial 5 Tracks 182

Is there a way to track down what damaging material hit the armor materials, so the RNG checks basically for this and not the HP Status?

[AlonTavor]

Is there a way to track down what damaging material hit the armor materials, so the RNG checks basically for this and not the HP Status?

There's no direct way to check anything other than HP difference.

[Fastjack]

Alon,


is it possible, to add to the AT projectiles a self created objecttemplate that could communicate with the Vehicle disabling system python?

[PBAsydney]

Gun tracking should be removed entirely from tanks, RNG is still determining waaaay too many tank battles.

[hairyballs]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbWR8o0 ... annel=hahr

please

[transpilot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbWR8o0 ... annel=hahr

please

As long as you dont ambush a tank, shoot him first on side than getting front hit with gun getting tracked no reason to cry.

[PBAsydney]

As long as you dont ambush a tank, shoot him first on side than getting front hit with gun getting tracked no reason to cry.

Leave the tank vs tank balance discussion to asset whores pls.

[Frontliner]

Leave the tank vs tank balance discussion to asset whores pls.

In the same manner we could say "Leave intended gameplay mechanics to the game designers' discretion please".

Niko may be talking smack but don't kid yourself thinking you get to dictate who is allowed to have a say here.