Optimize, but don't nerf the graphics for ancient comps

[[PR]AC3421]

I agree, dont screw it up because people are cheap. It doesnt take much to buy a graphics card now that can play this game full bore.

About $100 it takes. Yeah.

The new maps deserve to be played on all high. They look amazing. Especially lashkaar Valley :d rool:

Also. For anyone having major problems. ROLL BACK YOUR VIDEO DRIVERS. To like November or earlier from last year.

Fixed 90% of my problems. I still get some random CTD's but I always got those, before 0.9

All high in game settings, 8x AA. Then on my nvidia video cards settings. I have pretty much every bell and whistle on @ 1900 x 1200

[victor_phx]

Just viewed your specs on your profile an I almost have the same... Could I ask you what your settings are?.. and how much RAM you got?

I have a 2Gb RAM. I use drivers 175.16, and all high ingame, except for textures put in medium (for the sake of loading time, not performance). I run on 1680 x 1050. Oh, and 2x AA; 2x AF.

[TheLean]

I dont understand what has happened to Fallujah that makes my framerate half of what it was in 0.87. A few updated curbs, a moved mainbase, and some new assets is what is new if I recall correctly. Wierd thing is, even if I am not seeing any of the new improvements on my screen the framerate is still half of what it used to be. Can anyone explain that? Maybe the new american soldier textures eats a lot of graphic memory, pushing the total above 512mb or something...

I dont mind turning down my graphics, but it is annoying to not understand why this is. It is not like the map looks much different or better in 0.9, it was always a great looking map.

Specs. (nothing overclocked)

Q6600

4G RAM

8800 GT 512 mb

Vista 64 bit

Settings
All highest except 4x AA. 1680x1050 resolution.

[MonkeySoldier]

AC3421;1259073']I agree, dont screw it up because people are cheap. It doesnt take much to buy a graphics card now that can play this game full bore.

About $100 it takes. Yeah.

Ok, if it doesn't take much, you buy me a new one then.

I like games, but upgrading isn't the highest priority at the moment...

[bazza_1964]

My System:

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....somehow I don't seem to be having too many problems once I'm actually able to get into a server, usually CTD upon new map loading say 1 out of 3 times, although I haven't been keeping stats,

(I only have 1 CPU a P4, my MB has "HyperThreading" enabled....)

Or, maybe I'm the cause of all the lag....if that's true, sorry!

[ankyle62]

my comp is no where near slow and i have huge performance drops

i7
5777
6gb

[SilentWarrior]

ZZEZ;1258829']Sorry buddy, but geforce 8200 is really trash..onboard graphic cards don't fit in to gaming..your amount of ram and cpu cores is useless if your graphic lacks horsepower.
The game is 5 years old correct but all the weapons and models were made in modern standards with far higher view distances and draw ranges then vBF2, its unacceptable to demand that a 4 or 5 years old will run PR perfectly smooth on high graphics when we continue advancing graphically.

I have 3 computers in my house:
1)Q6600[2.6ghz quad core], 4gig ram and 4870 1gig ram.
2)E6300[1.86ghz dual core], 4gig ram and 8800GT 512 ram
3)Laptop - 2ghz dual core, 3gig ram and 8600GS 512 ram

All of them currently run PR fully maxxed out at 1440x900/1280x1024 and its playable on all of them, sure I get frame drops on heavy maps like Gaza and Fallujah to roughly 25-30 but its playable and if it really bothered me I would have reduced the AA to give me more FPS.

Yea currently there are performance issues and the team is trying its best to solve them so calm down

We all know what happen back in Battlefield 1942, when one of the latest Forgotten Hope mod patches was released, it had so good graphics that many pcs come to a crawl, but, it still had a very good option to lower the graphics, and still be very playable.

Right now that does not happen.
I tryed this on my brothers 3month old pc (800 euro upgrade on just main components), and it was also choppy, same as in my 4yr old 2000 euro machine.

So this isnt simply a problem of pure performance drops, its a problem with the way it was built. I know you guys did your best, but you have a big team, and all it takes is one person to mess up somewhere and cause all this problems, sometimes all it takes is a simple missing destructor or a condition running way more times than it actually need to.

I remember crashing a server with a simple PHP script where i forgot a simple condition when accessing the MySQL db, it was simple, yet, it crashed a very good machine.

At risk of sounding like i am teaching you how to do your job (i am not!) retrace your steps and see if theres really a need for some objects to be drawn so far away on some maps, or even behind buildings and such. I am not sure if you have this kind of control, since i never programmed any mod, but theres something you guys can do to help us out.

If anything, allow us with lower grade computers to manually turn down our view distance, i dont mind beeing sniped from 4km away or beeing blasted away, or what ever, if i can just play the game i will be happy.

Once again, thank you for your great job =) I love the new features, and i actually had a some minutes of fun when i learn i could travel the streets looking at the ground so i wouldnt actually crash, and managed to load quinlin after 7 timeouts.

[Lindahl]

The game is FREE! Use the money that you would normally have spent on buying the actuall game on hardware instead.

[Bringerof_D]

I think you're being arrogant - thinking that everyone should A) have enough money to spend on their PC and B) should spend what they have on their PC just so they can actually play a game they have as much right to play as you. It's elitist and arrogant.

*edit*

I have a geforce 8200, a triple core processor, and 3gb of RAM - and I just spent LITERALLY an hour trying to get onto a game that worked, then I gave up.

Also the game is 5 years old, so a computer bought four years ago should be able to run it.

actually, come to think of it none of us have the "right" to play, it's more of a privilege really. Would you go to the makers of Crysis and complain to them that not everyone can afford high end computers? lets face it upgrading is no longer an option, its a requirement in today's society. it was hard for me too last year, but i just gave up on PR for half a year and saved up to get my 9800gt.

thing is alot of people get upgrades every year which i think is stupid. my plan is if i need an upgrade save up and buy the best i can get instead of making small leaps as it will cost a lot less in the long run. and of course it means it'll be a while longer till i need another upgrade.

the game BF2 is 5 years old, PR is not BF2, the current PR is only several days old.

The game is FREE! Use the money that you would normally have spent on buying the actuall game on hardware instead.

agreed thats what i do, i dont spend money on other games anymore anyways so its a good place to put my money. it's a good investment for me too since i'm going into animation. theres usually a lot left over which is what i add into my spending/savings for my "life" <as herbiie says we have them, question is how well do you manage it.

[Feriluce]

The game is FREE! Use the money that you would normally have spent on buying the actuall game on hardware instead.

Cant get much hardware for 40$.

[Snazz]

If anything, allow us with lower grade computers to manually turn down our view distance, i dont mind beeing sniped from 4km away or beeing blasted away, or what ever, if i can just play the game i will be happy.

[Conman51]

All these complaints about slow computers make sense for the new maps, weve never played them we cant really tel if this is as optimized as they will be, but for maps like fallujah, where i played on med low settings and had decent FPS, where i turn to all low and have **** FPS doesnt make sense

If the overall graphics of PR must be nerfed in order to fix this horrible lag that the majority of people are getting so be it

[ZZEZ]

We all know what happen back in Battlefield 1942, when one of the latest Forgotten Hope mod patches was released, it had so good graphics that many pcs come to a crawl, but, it still had a very good option to lower the graphics, and still be very playable.

Right now that does not happen.
I tryed this on my brothers 3month old pc (800 euro upgrade on just main components), and it was also choppy, same as in my 4yr old 2000 euro machine.

So this isnt simply a problem of pure performance drops, its a problem with the way it was built. I know you guys did your best, but you have a big team, and all it takes is one person to mess up somewhere and cause all this problems, sometimes all it takes is a simple missing destructor or a condition running way more times than it actually need to.

I remember crashing a server with a simple PHP script where i forgot a simple condition when accessing the MySQL db, it was simple, yet, it crashed a very good machine.

At risk of sounding like i am teaching you how to do your job (i am not!) retrace your steps and see if theres really a need for some objects to be drawn so far away on some maps, or even behind buildings and such. I am not sure if you have this kind of control, since i never programmed any mod, but theres something you guys can do to help us out.

If anything, allow us with lower grade computers to manually turn down our view distance, i dont mind beeing sniped from 4km away or beeing blasted away, or what ever, if i can just play the game i will be happy.

Once again, thank you for your great job =) I love the new features, and i actually had a some minutes of fun when i learn i could travel the streets looking at the ground so i wouldnt actually crash, and managed to load quinlin after 7 timeouts.

I think people here are over reacting..
We know there is a problem with performance on some specific spots, IE Gaza Beach eastern rural village and certain places in Fallujah and yes its unreasonable.

The team is doing its best to track down the source of the problem and solve it[feel free to help yourself by helping us]..however keep in mind that new content will always be more performance demanding and just because your PR can run vBF2 fully maxed doesn't mean it will do the same to PR.

P.S you can manually turn down the VD in video options.

[Lindahl]

Found these guides online. I am running a trusty old XP machine which did not suffer at all in the latest patch. My XP runs really fast using only 450 MB of RAM when idle and I have followed this guide.

Following these steps might help some of you guys but be carefull when tweaking windows.

Rule No1: Don't do it if you are not 100% sure of what you are doing! I have crashed several computers because of pure stupidity and unknowledge. I do not take any responsibilty!

WINDOWS XP: 10 Simple Ways To Speed Up Windows XP | Connected Internet

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[Trooper909]

Im really unsure if its only players with low end rigs it seems a wide range of pc is efected low med or high end.
i for the most part dont get none of these problems just a little slowdown on failuga on my mid range pc but players with alot better specs than me get major lag now so pc specs may not be the problem.

bit early to worry about graphics nerfs as theres no evidence yet that points to older pc's as the problem.

[ma21212]

I cant go spend money on a brand new computer, I got college loans, Insurance, food etc etc etc. Im sorry Im not as rich as you but I still wanna play this 5 year old game set on "low" with above 30 FPS . Its not Crysis or GTA 4 or Bioshock.

[therussian123]

I wish servers would start playing 0.87 again. I like the 0.9 changes, but they are not worth the huge performance drop. I could play the game with everything maxed out with no lag whatsoever, now I can't even play it set on low. Hopefully we can play 0.87 until they fix this ****

[0331SgtSpyUSMC]

I think you all need to just chill out for a minute. Let the DEV's figure out whatever it is they are figuring out right now. Stop barking at each other about lowering settings and spending money on upgrades. None of the stuff anyone said here will make any difference whatsoever, so whats the point. Patience is a virtue.

[Brummy]

I think you all need to just chill out for a minute. Let the DEV's figure out whatever it is they are figuring out right now. Stop barking at each other about lowering settings and spending money on upgrades. None of the stuff anyone said here will make any difference whatsoever, so whats the point. Patience is a virtue.

Exactly, plus, you can all help the DEVs by filling out the performance form.

[Shaihuluid]

honestly, college students really don't have money to waste on a new megacomputer, they really don't. Keeping a balance between high/low graphics not only keeps PR's doors open to everyone, it expands it's player base. Not a hard decision to make.