(SSG) Multi Gaming Community

[ALADE3N]

I already mentioned his name above.....

Well , he was banned on prta(on all servers too, maybe) because of video evidences submitted by one or more people proving him guilty of the accusations. And then you guys asked him to record a footage of his gameplay to prove that he is innocent , when in fact he can just turn off all of his cheats and then record? In my opinion you cannot tell the people that play in the server that questions this matter that this is "not (on) your business". A single hacker can ruin the whole night of playtime while you say those words. Your fellow players are trying to help the keep the server clean and to give a fair treatment to all in return, if criticisms and feedback won't be heard you might as well put bots in your deployment server instead of real people since its pointless to give those to improve the service of the server.

[T.E.D.F4257845]

Hello everyone,

Or it's just about -> I don't like that team, why i'm here? (someone tell the admins to switch me back)
And that what TEDF said today : ~It depends on the team~

WTF are you on about?

[UncleSmek]

Its funny -- i cant even report hackers and griefers on SSG without getting banned myself for false reporting, how do you expect to get rid of the hackers? Maybe SSG admins are hackers themselves and cover for other hackers? For me it is just as viable as PRTA having a conspiracy against SSG, something Golden seems to believe.

DISCUSS PPEPEPELELEASE

[VTRaptor]

There is a huge difference between helping a community (because this game is dying and we have to help each other to revive it again) And keep criticizing that community

Dare talking about dying game while you are one of the reasons I lost interest in playing it as often as i used to. Now you talk shit about how we should help one another, yet you guys literally unbanned everyone just to get your server seeded back again, and it wasn't just some lost souls, because perm ban is only deserved by the worst - MOSTLY - griefers and hackers. Now the next day after you mercifully let them back in again, I've spotted TWO hackers playing at the same time, that were obvious enough, but who knows if there were any non-braindead cheaters harder to detect that got away and still play? I contributed and caught a couple of them over the years, and now what? The most absurd thing have happened. Keep killing the game, I don't really care at this point.

Have fun persecuting me on the server for whatever reason you see fit.

PS, providing feedback, which you call criticism is the way of helping the community. Can't help you any other way if you remove admins from the team simply because you don't like them or disagree with their opinion, but can't constructively reply.

[SemlerPDX]

We can help each other instead of criticizing all the time

You should be welcoming criticism 100% if it has a constructive purpose. This is absolutely integral to improving the health of your server and gaining the respect and confidence of your player base. I'm not talking out my *** - this is literally SOP at VG and has been for ten years.

There is quite a difference between constructive criticism and venting of frustration - and when you cannot read between the lines to find the source of their frustration, and only chalk it up to them "being mean", you demonstrate a lack of understanding that breeds more discontent and further venting inside actual constructive criticism posts.


I completely agree with you that reports of nothing but smack talk are hardly reports at all, and can be dismissed as a personal opinion - but when you got longtime regulars trying to provide valuable information and you dismiss them as being trite and unfounded, you only hurt yourself, the SSG server, and everything Rana ever hoped to achieve with the SSG group.

You should do better... you can do better.

[Fastjack]

@ Semler,

i think we cannot help here anymore. One community trashtalks the other community and vice versa.

And we, (=VG=), knowing what's going on and which community was trying something with us.

[GamerMoeed]

I think this is the right moment for me to chip in this current issue .I disappeared from the forums a while ago, but remained a senior admin and occasionally checked what was happening in the both the PR and SSG forums.

I have an very important announcement to make,but first a little context. Due to recent quality accusations on SSG servers we, the senior admin team had a very lengthy discussion. This discussion was long overdue, as for months we have had problems with senior PR management and management of other servers.

I even took a backstep from administrative duties to the toxic behavior that was created between SSG and PRTA, and especially the fact that the PRTA administrators were never reprimanded while SSG consistently got the flak. This game is very dear to me and seeing two communities fighting over the scraps of its left over was very heartbreaking, but I still supported SSG as I believed it was in the right.

However, coming back after a few months, I was thinking that relations between SSG and PRTA & developers would have been improved. Boy was I wrong...

The situation is depraved to the point where the senior administration is name-calling each other? Really? Developers are cleaning and censoring certain forums and people and name-calling others? They are even deleting posts that are criticizing certain servers, while other feedback forums are full of unfair and unjust criticism that remains un-moderated. So today, in a weekly meeting the question was finally asked. Is it worth it?

The unanimous decision is NO. It is not.

I am sorry to announce that we have decided to shut down all the SSG Project Reality servers. It truly saddens me to say this, but I have been utterly disappointed in this community. When I first joined PR in 2015, there used to be 400-500 players and multiple servers. Jump to year past we merely have had 200 players on peak times.

Back then the community was helpful to a new comer player like myself, but now it is become completely toxic. Developers have been taking sides for some time without any repercussions. It is therefore decided that the money and time spent on the server every month does not warrant the return of toxicity received from the community. I would say that even though there are still many good people in this community, they are not in the positions of influence that can change the current climate.

This is possibly my final post even regarding anything SSG and PR. The server will close on 16th February,2019. I hope the remaining communities resolve their issues and save this great game which was dying for some time but some have hastened its demise.

EDIT: I would also like to point two offensive and racist tags for this thread. Showing how much time is spent on moderation.
-GamerMoeed

[Mineral]

Unfortunately the tags on the forums is something I can't do much about. it was already cleaned up before as there were some worse ones before today. Thanks for bringing the new ones to my attention. If you notice them again, please let me know. Tbh I might ask our webdev to remove the thread tag feature all together. It's worthless if people constantly spam nonsense in them.

I hope SSG can come back on this decision. It is always good to have more servers with active admin staff. Furthermore, I think SSG, while sometimes hard to communicate with from my perspective, was a decent server throughout.

Can I also ask what this 'developer taking sides' thing is about? I am the only one in charge of licensed servers. The opinions of other PR team members don't have a single effect on this. SSG has not received a single punishment since they started. They were warned and talked to and some points to figure some things out, but to say I pick sides is laughable. Every server sometimes crosses a moral line and then I talk to the admins and advice where needed. Sometimes harsh sure. SSG was no different. PRTA, HOG and other servers can easily attribute moments in the past where I did the same to them. In fact, I'm likely the one of the last team members sticking out for servers that are less liked in this game's community. Like SSG sometimes was. I advocate freedom for server owners to deal as they see fit as much as possible on how to run their servers. SSG was given that freedom at all times, same as other servers. To much regret of part of the PR-team.

If you believe a few removed memes in the PRTA thread means we censor our forums then all I can do is laugh. I would like to see what your action would be on your own forums if such things were posted. Server feedback forums serve a very specific purpose. And have always been the most heavily moderated section of the PR forums. SSG's thread has been moderated the same way. Don't like it? Don't read or use the feedback forums. It's only there to help server owners. You also rage-quitted the admin discord cause dealing with opposition or feedback seems to be something SSG has a hard time dealing with at times. The fact that multiple SSG admins have a hard time interpreting basic English doesn't help I believe.

However, I agree with you that the server drama has increased over the last few years. Less servers, less players tends to do that naturally in a small community such as ours. If admins and server owners could mind their own business a bit more it would go a long way. SSG is no different in that regard. Yesterday I also sent out a PM to all server license holders to set some new boundaries and guidelines how server admins should treat other communities. I'm sure this will solve many of the current issues of shit-talking amongst servers. At least I hope. Otherwise punitive actions are in order as I said in that PM.

Anyway, to summarize, I don't understand SSG playing the victim here. All servers are hated by many, griefed by many and treated the same by me. Sure it isn't fun at all times. But all servers are in the same boat. If you feel like you cannot continue under that system anymore, or as you say isn't worth it anymore, then that is surely understable. You aren't the first server to take a break, temporary or permanent. But don't act like you are treated differently then any other server. You aren't special.

Also, given the high attention this post of yours will likely attract I'd like to remind others of the rules of this forum. No memes pls. This is a final warning, any people disregarding that will get direct infractions, no warning.

[Fastjack]

@ SSG Administration

I wouldn't give up. Why? We, =VG=, want to see your servers online.

Don't give up. You know how many people cannot play the game (deployment/coop) anymore after 16. february?

[>para<]

Wise words by GamerMoeed for the community. Good server, i have good moments there, but some of the ssg guys are beyond ridiculous, most of the guests are playing only inf or trans, becasue ssg and friends take all assets, for one example on op marlin on MEC side, there is two bmp2, one famous member lock the squad with only two ppl inside with the intention to keep the apcs only for him any atempt to interact with him chat or mumble to unlock so other ppl join was hopeless, on op falcon with two mi24s the squad was locked with 3 ppl inside but for admin if they are good pilots its okay to solo them, on silent eagle one very cool Arab guy with basic english was literally abused buy ssg admin for not knowing english, he was a sl with ssg admins in the sqaud. We got in the tank and i was driver, He told me with simple words that he is an arab and dont know english very good, and to follow marker were to drive, the arab guy was probalby new and used squad chat mumble, but he talked few words like go to marker go here go there simple few words one ssg admin who i will not mention probably because im gonma be banned told him quote: you f*cking piece of s*it if you dont know english get the fuck out you stupid f*uck, i was mocked because my voice i got in car accident caused little metal plate to stuck in my neck wich i lost my voice for monts and i was able to talk recently, when we go killed we both got kicked from squad and guess what all other members who dont wear ssg were kicked too, i spawned where the admin is, and i asked him why i got kicked he told me quote : because you cant fucking shoot you idiot, i told him that i was driver, and he was quote : ....oh... Well its your faulth then its always driver faulth that guy just had to find some stupid reason to kick no ssg guys, after that i joined apc squad with great ppl there, the sl asked why i got kicked from tank squad and i explained himhe told me just , well nothing new two weeks ago my cas squad was kicked from the server 5min before jets to spawn when i returned ssg guys was made cas squad. Dont get me wrong there is amazing ssg guys outhere funny teamplay oriented, its a simply a pleasure ot see them in server and join their squad, but guys whats happened here? I was playing that game from 2008 and at 2014 i had to stop for reasons in personal life, now im back but i cant believe what im seeing, before was a pleasure to atay all night or day to play, people with basic english was accepted by every one only here i saw 7 ppl to help to one who dont know the language, really happy moments and fun what makes you to sleep and go play again, now with shrinked community you get mocked, abused, kicked, literally because you want to have few hours fun, most of the people are yelling and shouting like crazy, for lost a tank, lost a kit or just because they dont like your voice. If you have bad day just dont play, dont ruin other ppl fun. Just my 2 cents.

[RaNa-Rocxs]

@ SSG Administration

I wouldn't give up. Why? We, =VG=, want to see your servers online.

Don't give up. You know how many people cannot play the game (deployment/coop) anymore after 16. february?

SSG try our best with wasting 160 Euro on every month plus 16,16 hours at everyday to managed the server for this PR community without any benefit. But on the end we are happy from this reward what we have from Dev's + players of PR. There is too much interfering from a community to all others, just only to fill own servers if if someone think i am wrong then check by yourself guys there is long history in this servers feedback forums which communities was daed or which are dying on end into the result you will find 80% same peoples from same community.

If there think they can manage everything better than us then let them be we are happy.
GG

[TyrantSlayer]

Dare talking about dying game while you are one of the reasons I lost interest in playing it as often as i used to. Now you talk shit about how we should help one another, yet you guys literally unbanned everyone just to get your server seeded back again, and it wasn't just some lost souls, because perm ban is only deserved by the worst - MOSTLY - griefers and hackers. Now the next day after you mercifully let them back in again, I've spotted TWO hackers playing at the same time, that were obvious enough, but who knows if there were any non-braindead cheaters harder to detect that got away and still play? I contributed and caught a couple of them over the years, and now what? The most absurd thing have happened. Keep killing the game, I don't really care at this point.

Have fun persecuting me on the server for whatever reason you see fit.

PS, providing feedback, which you call criticism is the way of helping the community. Can't help you any other way if you remove admins from the team simply because you don't like them or disagree with their opinion, but can't constructively reply.

Same shit here I stoped playing PR cuz the golden pilot and all his liers friedns, really SSG shouldn't have a license to run PR.

[>para<]

Same shit here I stoped playing PR cuz the golden pilot and all his liers friedns, really SSG shouldn't have a license to run PR.

+1 lets hope prta, hog, or open reality dont give him admin rights and kick him if he join cas squad like he used to do to other players.
Golden in chat : open cas.
Golden joined cas.
Golden - i will fly a10
Cas Sl - a10 is for me i will fly it.
Cas sl was kicked feom the server.

[Golden_Pilot]

+1 lets hope prta, hog, or open reality dont give him admin rights and kick him if he join cas squad like he used to do to other players.
Golden in chat : open cas.
Golden joined cas.
Golden - i will fly a10
Cas Sl - a10 is for me i will fly it.
Cas sl was kicked feom the server.

I didn't kick anyone in my whole life for assets

Stop lying

[ALADE3N]

I didn't kick anyone in my whole life for assets

Stop lying

You know, people talks about you kicking people because of things like these.

[Golden_Pilot]

You know, people talks about you kicking people because of things like these.

I don't care about what people say about me

Some people like me and some don't

But i never abuse my powers to do heavy assets

Again i do not care about your opinions in me.

[GHOST_-DK-]

I don't care about what people say about me

Some people like me and some don't

But i never abuse my powers to do heavy assets

Again i do not care about your opinions in me.

Who are you?

[Deviro]

While many are celebrating the death of SSG, I dread to think what will happen to the overall community in the future. You guys didn't do yourself any favours by pissing of many. But I still think healthy competition is better than medicore domination. The former of which we haven't had since some time in PR. But the latter we will, with PRTA eventually absorbing every English speaking community under its umbrella.

And I'm saying all of that with being part of PRTA since I started playing and will be until PR sunsets or I get removed for expressing thoughts like these, because where else is there to go? Not complaining mind you, just pointing out what everybody wants to ignore while celebrating.

I will miss you SSG, even though you were a terrible server with incompetent people running it. I just hope this is not a mirror.

[ALADE3N]

I don't care about what people say about me

Some people like me and some don't

But i never abuse my powers to do heavy assets

Again i do not care about your opinions in me.

I wasn't giving opinions about you.

"I think you are a dumbass who kicks people before warning them."

That is an opinion. In the first place, I wasn't giving any.

[mectus11]

Hey, your tracker/br page doesn't work.