Experiences of a PRT Commander

Michael_Denmark
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Re: Experiences of a PRT Commander

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Very very cool read Jigsaw.

All should read this.

Please more of the same from other battles!

Question:
Firstly had I pushed in those squads more aggressively it is reasonable to assume that CATA would have been forced to redeploy from their assault and defend North City
How excatly would you have done this; fewer part-objectives to attack from start or did you simply not rush it from start?

Very cool read. Stuff like this will only evolve the tourney and the public games.
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Scot
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Re: Experiences of a PRT Commander

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4th Rifles-5 men and 1 Support Truck
23rd MTB-3 men and 2 Repair Land Rovers
2nd Marines-5men and 1 IFV
3rd LAR- 5 men and 1 IFV
70th Armored- 8 men and 4 tanks
JCOMS- 4 men and 2 HATS and one support truck


4th Rifles and their support truck race to Oil Production, once there they start attempting to take the flag.
23rd will be following the armor, and repairing it.

2nd Marines will be attempting to take the flag at Oil Storage their IFV will provide assistance against light vehicles and infantry.
3rd LAR will be doing the same as 2nd marines.

70th will be in the upper most 2 corridores in the I quadrant. Once there they are not to activly attack anything without my approval. Their main job is to cover that flank.

JCOMS will be capping the flag at village, and setting up a bunker there. Once they are done they will move to A4k8 and set up a firebase, once done if we have either OS or OP they will setup an addiditional firebase at A8. From there they will either
  • Attempt to ambush enemy tanks while they are moving back to main for rearm.
  • Go on a hunter killer mission.
As many of you have noticed this is a very simple battle plan, the reason for this is that over battle plans are usually elabrant, and well they dont actually work very well in this tournament. As the saying goes, plans only work until the first bullet is fired.

Strategy
As a Commander I am more so worried about our strategy than our battle plan. Our strategy this time will be to lure out their tanks, or to destroy their tanks without our tanks. I love the powel doctrine, in that "You dont go to war except with an overwhelming force". Best case scenario, JCOMS can take out 3 of their tanks, leaving it 4 of ours against 1 of theirs, worst case they all die. I have faith in JCOMS.

Gentlemen, CATA 1 is an armor team, they love their armor. So the enemy will be expecting us to attack, on their terms. Instead, lets attack on our terms.


Ok boys, there you have my IBP, rip it up.
That's the IBP posted by Eddiereyes909 for B1, don't think it changed that much.
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Jigsaw
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Re: Experiences of a PRT Commander

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Michael_Denmark wrote:How excatly would you have done this; fewer part-objectives to attack from start or did you simply not rush it from start?
Basically those squads were a bit slow moving into position as they paused around the central entrance to docks and were taking incoming fire from the high buildings iirc. I feel it would have gone faster if the units already stationed at the northern entrance had moved into the buildings with the reserve squads moving in behind, thereby making the initial assault and then following through with the squads behind.

Will try to post some more from the battles I have been involved in :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CKjNcSUNt8
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Michael_Denmark
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Re: Experiences of a PRT Commander

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Please do.

Thanks for the content scott.

Is it possible to request some of the old NATO plans against CATA 2, like C6B2, C6B6? Or all of them :-)
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Re: Experiences of a PRT Commander

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This is a bit depressing to read. The last PRT battle I really enjoyed was C7B3, Op Barracuda. And that's well over a year ago. :|
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Re: Experiences of a PRT Commander

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Farks wrote:This is a bit depressing to read. The last PRT battle I really enjoyed was C7B3, Op Barracuda. And that's well over a year ago. :|
The huge *** Stalemate one?
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MaxBoZ wrote:The huge *** Stalemate one?
that was crazy and nicely executed on part of nato :)
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Yes that battle too, could be interesting in regard to deployed plans in this thread.
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That was one of our most simple plans - take the airfield and hold it. :p It actully worked much better than we expected, cos we were still struggling with it just a few days before the battle. Iirc, we had one platoon at the south part of the airfield, and another at the north part togheter with my squad.



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Re: Experiences of a PRT Commander

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Nice stuff, very cool video, are there any more detailed planning-content avail, CO´s summery/evaluation, which u can deploy here?
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Re: Experiences of a PRT Commander

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Nothing on my harddrive, and I don't have access to the NATO archives atm. :(
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Ok Farks, thank you for what you have deployed.

Will anyone with archieve access, please consider to deploy?
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Re: Experiences of a PRT Commander

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No one does anymore. Once I do, ill see what I can do. You'll prolly have to wait for a few months tho Michael. :(
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Ok, cool if you/others can/will do so, in X time.

Just think it would be awesome if all plan-related stuff/evaluations too, from both sides of old tourney battles, could be posted in this thread, so we finally (us co players), will be able to see, what the other decision-maker, had planned/experienced/evaluated, on his side of the hill.

Think this thread you deployed here, has been needed for many campaigns now. I have no problem if my plans/evaluations/discussions will be deployed, and i think most old PRT CO players, feels the very same. Its all old stuff anyway, being important components, of the PRT history and evolvement.
Ok scot, thx!
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However, in regard to EA, these guys never took the initiative.

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I'm in the middle of my revision at the mo, but in about 2 hours or so, I'll have a dig around for that Op Barracuda battle.
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Now I am trying to puzzle together all those people who has stepped up to the plate in the tournament, as either CO or SCO, I found this very useful thread again. Good information deployed here...and on that note,

Scot, you found it?
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Holy Necro Posts Batman
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Re: Experiences of a PRT Commander

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In case you don't have them,

C10 PAC Team:
SCO: Spook
CO: Cruzmissile
C10 EMF Team:
SCO: Norby
CO: Snipd, briefly ElMariachi, then Agemman and CasualtyUR , Danger_6,
What occurred here was a dispute with Snipd where he elected to leave the team, ElMariachi was recruited to replace him but felt the PRT wasn't for him after roughly a week or two (including 1 battle), Casualty And Age stepped up soon after one another (can't remember which was first) but both were busy in real life and didnt truly have the time to fufuill the position despite their best efforts. These two would stick around and contribute the rest of the campaign but Danger was recruited as someone who did have the time to actually CO and did a wonderful job at it for the entire 2nd half, rallying EMF and giving them the win in the campaign through some really close great battles. Ask anyone from these teams about the last battle of C10 and you'll get a good story. Both of these teams likely had an XO but I can't remember who they were right now.

C11 MRF Team:
SCO: Cossack
CO: Aleon
XO: WebCole
C11: PDI Team:
SCO: Danger
CO: Fnixer (who would resign early into the campaign as a result of real life issues I believe), then hotfranc who served for the of the campaign, stepping up from the XO role.
XO:hotfranc, not sure if they felt the need to give this position to anyone else after franc's promotion.

The factions for C12 haven't been assigned yet, (that will be taken care of after grunt sign-ups) but these are the two high commands:
C12 Team A:
SCO: Yrkidding
CO: ytman
XO: Murkey
C12 Team B:
SCO: Philrow
CO: Senshi
XO: To be determined.
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Re: Experiences of a PRT Commander

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Okay,

C10 EMF Team:
SCO: Norby
CO: Snipd, briefly ElMariachi, then Agemman and CasualtyUR , Danger_6

Okay, Snipd resign, then ElMariachi was recruited and appointed by the administration? as CO for 1 battle, or was he already a player on the C10 PAC team, being recruited intenally, without the administration interfering in the change?

Agemman and good old CasualtyUR, who I fought my self as CO back in 2006, or so?, they step up and are also appointed by the administration, or is this maybe also done internally on the team?

Then at last Danger, and he pull it off for the rest of the campaign. Same question goes for him as with the rest; did the administration appoint him or was it done internally?

I am asking in order to understand the evolvement of the tournament, I mean with an SCO it should - in theory at least - be possible for the teams to adapt them selfs in the case wher new COs are needed?

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When that is said, this pattern of continously change in commandership, is excatly what we saw back in both C5 and C6, when i played in the tourney.


C11: PDI Team
SCO: Danger
CO: Fnixer

Fnixer resign, then hotfranc step up and get appointed as CO, and he complete the rest of the campaign.
XO:hotfranc, not sure if they felt the need to give this position to anyone else after franc's promotion.
This sentence I do not understand...hotfranc and franc's? who is francs, another CO, or did you mean Fnixer?

Copy on C12 start data, lets wait it out and see what happens.
Define irony. A bunch of guys playing PR year after year. A game teaching initiative as the prime mover.
However, in regard to EA, these guys never took the initiative.

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Re: Experiences of a PRT Commander

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I think you guys meant to post in this thread:
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f142-c ... ost2145115
no?
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