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Re: MT-LB based vehicles

Posted: 2010-07-20 15:27
by Teh0
I love it already. BMP1 & 2 next maybe?

Re: MT-LB based vehicles

Posted: 2010-07-20 15:42
by cyberzomby
Looks epic! A nice small death compartment

Re: MT-LB based vehicles

Posted: 2010-07-20 15:54
by THE.FIST
cyberzomby wrote:Looks epic! A nice small death compartment
yep it's a tomb on tracks just like idf m113 :p

Re: MT-LB based vehicles

Posted: 2010-07-20 15:56
by Brummy
I like how you all judge how it's going to suck in-game when you haven't even seen the changes in .92 nor the vehicle itself.

Re: MT-LB based vehicles

Posted: 2010-07-20 16:15
by dtacs
Brummy wrote:I like how you alljudge how it's going to suck in-game when you haven't even seen the changes in .92 nor the vehicle itself.
We make the assumptions of realism, why would the vehicle be developed to be different in armor and armament stats from its real life counterpart? One can only assume that its going to die/the crew would be killed from a single tank shell because its realistic.

But you're right, the vehicle mightn't even be in maps with tanks and large-caliber APC's.
Teh0 wrote:I love it already. BMP1 & 2 next maybe?
Hopefully! The BMP-2 is in the making I think, there is one in the US Intervention mod though :smile:

Re: MT-LB based vehicles

Posted: 2010-07-20 16:17
by Celestial1
dtacs wrote:We make the assumptions
That. That right there. Stop that.

Re: MT-LB based vehicles

Posted: 2010-07-20 16:18
by THE.FIST
Brummy wrote:I like how you all judge how it's going to suck in-game when you haven't even seen the changes in .92 nor the vehicle itself.
well look at idf m113 isn't it a tomb ? this one i am more then sure going to suck balls :-P

Re: MT-LB based vehicles

Posted: 2010-07-20 16:24
by Brummy
[R-DEV]THE.FIST wrote:well look at idf m113 isn't it a tomb ? this one i am more then sure going to suck balls :-P
The M113 on Beirut sucks if it runs off alone because it counters a lot stronger assets. On Asad Kahl it's quite good, it just sucks that you can get shot out.

Of course the MTLB is not the strongest or most powerful vehicle but we'll just have to wait how it plays out in the next build. :)

Re: MT-LB based vehicles

Posted: 2010-07-20 16:25
by samogon100500
[R-DEV]DankE_SPB wrote:60km/h max speed is not that slow
Anyway - wheeled vehicles move faster that tracked!

Re: MT-LB based vehicles

Posted: 2010-07-20 16:27
by dtacs
Celestial1 wrote:That. That right there. Stop that.
Why exactly?

Re: MT-LB based vehicles

Posted: 2010-07-20 16:57
by EnermaX
yeehaaa

Re: MT-LB based vehicles

Posted: 2010-07-20 17:01
by dbzao
I can't believe this discussion turned the way it did. :roll:

Not all vehicles are über vehicles ffs, every vehicle in-game has to avoid stronger vehicles/weapons, it's not something new or introduced by this vehicle... just relax and think of ways they *will* be useful.

Re: MT-LB based vehicles

Posted: 2010-07-20 17:09
by Duke
dtacs wrote:Why exactly?
Because to assume makes an *** out of you and me. Zing! :razz:

In all seriousness, drawing conclusions based on presumption is never a wise move. The MT-LB has an armor thickness of around 10 mm, which is comparable to the BTRs we see in game, so not quite the glue and paper armor of the BRDM. Yes, it will most likely die if it meets an MBT or IFV head on, but that's not its purpose.

The models damn fine, and in its role it should work perfectly. Looking forward to seeing it in-game.

Re: MT-LB based vehicles

Posted: 2010-07-20 17:27
by Rudd
dtacs wrote:Why exactly?
because the *** of the ump will TION you!

Re: MT-LB based vehicles

Posted: 2010-07-20 17:35
by Rhino
[R-DEV]dbzao wrote:I can't believe this discussion turned the way it did. :roll:
You can't? It happens with like every new highlight topic :p

"OMG the CSBs are going to be SOOO predictable, like, they cross a river man. Its going to be even worse than before when we only had static bridges that where in excatly the same place in every single round like and they where not predictable at all unlike these new CSBs which you have to use one of the many pre-defined locations!!!"

Re: MT-LB based vehicles

Posted: 2010-07-20 17:35
by Ciro Moretti
Cant wait to get behind the wheel of one of those

Re: MT-LB based vehicles

Posted: 2010-07-20 18:12
by dtacs
[R-DEV]Duke wrote: In all seriousness, drawing conclusions based on presumption is never a wise move. The MT-LB has an armor thickness of around 10 mm, which is comparable to the BTRs we see in game, so not quite the glue and paper armor of the BRDM.
I'm sorry, so it won't die in a single shot or be put on fire like the BMP-3, Bradley and BTRs? If making obvious assumptions is a bad thing, prove me wrong that this vehicle won't operate exactly as I said it will. Like many Soviet vehicles it is an armored coffin. Bam, assumption. Prove it wrong.

Theres a whole lot of in saying that 'assumptions are bad' when the assumed statement is blatantly true.
[R-DEV]dbzao wrote: Not all vehicles are über vehicles ffs, every vehicle in-game has to avoid stronger vehicles/weapons, it's not something new or introduced by this vehicle... just relax and think of ways they *will* be useful.
Look what happened last time that thought occurred. All APCs are now used mainly for light tanking purposes, which they absolutely kick *** at. The unarmed BRDM on Muttrah is used for ramming choppers at docks at the start of the game (which is quite successful I might add)

I don't need to tell you that there is a fine line between realism and practicality. Joe PR Player is never going to use this for transporting infantry (and if it does): dropping crates when there is a gun and zoom on it.

User was warned for useless/unhelpful post content. Making any kind of assumptions on how a simple model will perform in-game without actual knowledge of it's performance is useless and irrelevant and when expressed with the above attitude towards team members will earn warnings and infractions. - Jigsaw

Re: MT-LB based vehicles

Posted: 2010-07-20 18:18
by Rudd
jesus dtacs, you really need to learn that this is the DEV's house, the rest of us are just visiting, please don't piss on the carpet. just enjoy the screenshots until you can show you are right or wrong with actual proof, or bite your tongue just to be polite to the guys who put their free time in to this for you

Re: MT-LB based vehicles

Posted: 2010-07-20 18:19
by dtacs
[R-CON]Rudd wrote:jesus dtacs, you really need to learn that this is the DEV's house, the rest of us are just visiting, please don't piss on the carpet. just enjoy the screenshots until you can show you are right or wrong with actual proof, or bite your tongue just to be polite to the guys who put their free time in to this for you
Ok then.

Re: MT-LB based vehicles

Posted: 2010-07-20 19:02
by Rhino
dtacs wrote:The unarmed BRDM on Muttrah is used for ramming choppers at docks at the start of the game (which is quite successful I might add)
It would be nice if people could post this stuff in a place where it would be useful (ie, in the Muttrah feedback topic) rather than randomly in a highlight post...