[Weapon] v0.9 Improved Area Attacks

[PuffNStuff]

i dont care how large the house it, if it is hit with a JDAM, its gone.

[hiberNative]

nice one, this was needed. but i might not wanna stick my head up and enjoy the show anymore

[Feriluce]

i dont care how large the house it, if it is hit with a JDAM, its gone.

Possibly, but an artillery or mortar shell damn well shouldnt penetrate through a thick cave roof.

[jbgeezer]

Certain munitions cause injury/death only by means of shrapnel, while others are designed to actually kill/injure by means of the blast wave.

For example, a 155mm HE shell is going to have a smaller blast/shock wave than a 500lb JDAM, but the max shrapnel range of the 155mm HE round is going to be much greater. This means that the 155mm HE would have a larger kill radius against open targets, and minimal effect against heavy armor or protected grunts. The JDAM on the other hand would probably have more destructive damage against armor and protected soldiers within the blast radius, but almost no damage outside that immediate range.

This means that specific types of munitions will have varied types of damage limits. Artillery (howitzer/mortar), MBT main gun rounds, and other similar munitions will function differently than JDAM warheads or most IED/VBIED's.

When at close range, the larger shells like a 155mm would surely take out an MBT. But beyond maybe 15-20m, not likely. In real life, at that range the only real damage to an MBT from an HE round would be damaged external unarmored components and loss of externally-mounted equipment. Nothing that would need to be simulated in PR.

But with blast-based munitions such as the JDAM, even the smallest 500lb warhead is likely to jack up a tank at 30-50m. If the tank itself isn't wiped out, the crew inside would still be in a world of hurt.


As for longer ranges though, the 155mm HE is probably going to still cause casualties beyond 40-50m, due to shrapnel and projected debris. But armored vehicles and soldiers behind cover would remain relatively safe. The JDAM and similar munitions would likely not have any serious effect at extended range though, due to their minimal shrapnel projection.

That's the main difference between the two types of attacks. You have either "Blast" or "Fragment", rarely both.

Ninja2Dan, you are awesome I have always wondered about these issues

[mangeface]

This will make it a lot better, especially since the JDAM is made to penetrate bunkers and mountainsides.

[Tofurkeymeister]

This will make it a lot better, especially since the JDAM is made to penetrate bunkers and mountainsides.

JDAM is a guidance device, not a kind of bomb. Still, I concur that this will make the 2000lb guided bomb much more effective.

[cyberzomby]

lol indeed if you're expecting area attacks to blow up caches like they do in 0.87

Epic Dis But cool to know!

[privatedoodles]

looking good, these are much needed changes really looking forward to 0.9

[killonsight95]

i dont care how large the house it, if it is hit with a JDAM, its gone.

each map can only contain upto 350 destructible objects otherwise it may cause server crashes

[CanuckCommander]

JDAM is a guidance device, not a kind of bomb. Still, I concur that this will make the 2000lb guided bomb much more effective.

JOINT DIRECT ATTACK MUNITION, JDAM. I think the bomb with the GPS kit is called JDAM. Without the kit, it would just be a mk8x bomb, and without the bomb, it would just be the GPS kit/guidance device.

Anyhow, the guy you responded to was probably talking about a bunker buster. Although I believe it is not 100% realistic that the bomb is penetrating into the bunker since it is not designed to do so, it is a necessary game play compromise to ensure that people hiding nearby in more vulnerable cover are killed as in RL and not survive as in PR after such attack.

[gazzthompson]

each map can only contain upto 350 destructible objects otherwise it may cause server crashes

i believe that comment was to backup the new "75m regardless of cover".

[Lucke189]

Gaah, I want PR 0.9 nao!

[Complicate]

Gaah, I want PR 0.9 nao!

We all want it to come out soon , but we also want the developers to do a good job