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Re: MT-LB based vehicles
Posted: 2010-07-21 01:11
by Staker
Variety is never bad. I for one am getting tired of seeing a BRDM on every Russian or MEC map despite the fact that I like it a lot
![Rolling Eyes :roll:](./images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif)
. Also one model fits for multiple purposes, so I can see why it was made. (Should've stayed away from this
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)
To actually have something to say about the highlight; Can the guns, tubes and such turn a full 360?
Re: MT-LB based vehicles
Posted: 2010-07-21 01:48
by alec89
Staker wrote:Variety is never bad. I for one am getting tired of seeing a BRDM on every Russian or MEC map despite the fact that I like it a lot
![Rolling Eyes :roll:](./images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif)
. Also one model fits for multiple purposes, so I can see why it was made. (Should've stayed away from this
![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif)
)
To actually have something to say about the highlight; Can the guns, tubes and such turn a full 360?
The only BRDM I like is the TOW. The transport BRDM like on Iron Ridge and Silent Eagle is just retarded. You actually gotta request a crewman kit to drive it while not even having an offensive capability in it. And besides irl russian army doesnt really use them much anymore, we sell them as scrap to China and sell for use worldwide.
Re: MT-LB based vehicles
Posted: 2010-07-21 04:02
by Nebsif
Teh TOW BRDM is so OP, even if u miss 1 rocket u have like 4 more to have fun with, cant wait to try teh MT-LB TOW thingy tho, if it will have heat rockets... leet. BTW, arent spandy rockets reloaded manually IRL, like teh crewmen have to go outside and reload, if yah then it should a longer reload time like j00 guys did with teh fatdley.. bradley.
Re: MT-LB based vehicles
Posted: 2010-07-21 04:28
by Nosferatu
You see, gentlemen, a pimp's vehicle is very different than a square's.
Basic version of MT-LB can't stand hi calibers, but it not supposed to, smart playas use MT-LB when the heat is not around, understand what I'm saying? MT-LB is a steed, not an armored rhino, messin' with other rhinos, elephants, whales and other big brothas of the metal beastiary. When turf wars are going on far away and enemy gang is not around, it's a time for chillin'n'maxin, MT-LB will bring all the stuff you need for cool times if you know what I mean.
We're still on the battlefield so you'll need to get busy, need to work hard to get some tickets for pimp and if someone won't be down with that, pimp will call big guys to solve the problem with all means necessary - ranging from ***** slap to very mean stuff like JDAM. Bottom line is pimp car ain't fighting, it's representing.
And pimping ain't easy, men.
Re: MT-LB based vehicles
Posted: 2010-07-21 04:39
by McBumLuv
^ That reply is Legend, Nosferatu.
Also:
Haters gonna hate. You can't phaaaaaase me, else Rhino will call the Cyber-pohleece and the consequences will never be the same.
Re: MT-LB based vehicles
Posted: 2010-07-21 10:36
by *NwA* deadly22sniper
Loving it, Nosferatu.
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Re: MT-LB based vehicles
Posted: 2010-07-21 15:30
by Epipen
i usually don't comment in this kind of topic but... OMG this vehicle is awesome.
Re: MT-LB based vehicles
Posted: 2010-07-21 17:15
by theUg
ytman wrote:Also BRDMs are scout vehicles. They are better armed/armored than humvees but also are more limited in role. The reason I think the unarmed varient is used as transport is because of the lack of a Mec/Russian 'jeep'. If the Mec/Russian Jeep ever shows up... then I do expect the BRDM to be replaced with its old make out of 4 seats. Just give the vehicle a better zoom, 4x, and camo for maps like Silent Eagle.
That is a valid point, but I would like to point out that there is a model of Russian jeep out there. It is called UAZ and used by PLA in-game. If we are not talking about lightly armoured wheeled infantry transport like Vodnik/HMMWV, or heavier armour-plated stuff like Tigr/Panther-CLV/plated-HMMWV, then UAZ is the jeep (as in “general purpose” vehicle) of Russian AF. And if there is something that replaced it IRL that I don’t know about, it is still quite plausible for it to be used by MEC/Militia (I would rather see UAZ technical for some generic Eastern European paramilitary then some Japanese-looking technical that works for Middle East.
However, problem with the UAZ/LandRovers and the like is lack of seats. As a squad transport it might work in tandem with the truck. 4 guys get the fast mover and quickly get in the area to secure it, while other two ride the truck to establish FOB. Or if it is the recon/diversion squad, four guys get in then SL drops a rally point for the other two.
Whereas unarmed BRDM is dedicated infantry transporter (it’s filled up to the brim with infantry). I love to use it as such in-game, but I find it implausible to have modified BRDM for troop transport in Russian AF especially. Are there any IRL?
Now, MT-LB weren’t designed as APCs or IFVs. They had been used IRL as troop transports, true, but it is not their primary purpose. Aside from AT and AA versions, I see MT-LB as logistics/engineering vehicle in-game. It could be used as protected (by armour and MG turret) yet slow moving alternative to supply truck with troop transport capability, and especially as bridge-laying vehicle, but definitely not as APC.
Re: MT-LB based vehicles
Posted: 2010-07-21 17:55
by Rudd
is a valid point, but I would like to point out that there is a model of Russian jeep out there. It is called GAZ and used by PLA in-game.
no it isn't they use the VN3 and the WZ551
Re: MT-LB based vehicles
Posted: 2010-07-21 17:56
by DankE_SPB
he means UAZ jeep which was present on Qwai before
Re: MT-LB based vehicles
Posted: 2010-07-21 17:57
by Rudd
ah my bad, I thought he was going down teh Vodnick route
Re: MT-LB based vehicles
Posted: 2010-07-21 22:23
by theUg
Yes, I stand corrected. And UAZ is on Qwai now, at least it was there last week when I drove in it. Engine sound sucks, but it serves its purpose as squad transport (vehicle attached to the squad for mobility).
However, I’d like to hear if my guess about logistical/engineering purpose of new MT-LB is even remotely close.
Re: MT-LB based vehicles
Posted: 2010-07-22 05:36
by Trooper909
This is a russian stryker type thingy yes?
Looks good anyway more stuff is never a bad thing.
Hope to one day see the GAS 2975 so russia can have a hummer equivilent *hint hint
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Re: MT-LB based vehicles
Posted: 2010-07-22 06:12
by Nosferatu
theUg wrote:
However, I’d like to hear if my guess about logistical/engineering purpose of new MT-LB is even remotely close.
It is remotely close, comrade.
Re: MT-LB based vehicles
Posted: 2010-07-22 09:54
by mongol-horde
Trooper909 wrote:This is a russian stryker type thingy yes?
Looks good anyway more stuff is never a bad thing.
Hope to one day see the GAS 2975 so russia can have a hummer equivilent *hint hint
isnt it weird to call cartepillar chassis that is produced since time when stryker wasnt even drawn on paper a stryker type thingy?
Re: MT-LB based vehicles
Posted: 2010-07-22 10:00
by dtacs
mongol-horde wrote:isnt it weird to call cartepillar chassis that is produced since time when stryker wasnt even drawn on paper a stryker type thingy?
He means in relation to the Strykers purpose. Transport infantry > they dismount > support them with fire and a means of protection.
It does the same thing yes, except in a more crude fashion.
Re: MT-LB based vehicles
Posted: 2010-07-22 11:48
by RHYS4190
You mean a light tank cos let face that what there going to be used for, I rarely see people using APC's to transporting the infantry.
I think that unarmed Russian personal carrier was a steep in the right direction, But i don't think you should have to have a crew man kit to drive it.
Re: MT-LB based vehicles
Posted: 2010-07-22 12:39
by Maxfragg
your doing something wrong if you use it as a light tank, the only light tank ingame are the BMP-3 and Scimitar
Re: MT-LB based vehicles
Posted: 2010-07-22 13:10
by Wakain
that's the whole problem, a lot of people use it as a light tank, so denying the team's squads protection, mobility and firepower. I'm quite sure rhys doesn't mean he's going to use this vehicle that way but rather states the problematic way people will use it.
Re: MT-LB based vehicles
Posted: 2010-07-22 13:24
by dbzao
Yes, let's remove all vehicles or else there's a possibility they won't be used the right way.
That complaint is getting old, really... you are complaining about PLAYERS doing something stupid after we give them the tools.
We can mod the game not the players, so get over it and try to play with people that will actually use it the right way instead of just bitching about it.