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Put M40 rifle as sniper kit, and scoped M14 as marksman, as realistic

Posted: 2014-08-06 05:40
by Daniel
As title says. cause atm. a scoped M14 is the sniper rifle, but in Vietnam war they had M40 (as seen in BF vietnam and Bad Company 2 Vietnam).

Posted: 2014-08-06 06:53
by RedWater
In BF Vietnam they also had M16 with scope as "sniper"-class. Must be super - realistic, please add it as Alt-marksman. Kthxbye

Re: Put M40 rifle as sniper kit, and M21 as marksman, as realistic

Posted: 2014-08-06 08:59
by StevePl4y5
Daniel is right. During the Vietnam War the Remington Model 40x rifle became the USMC standard sniper rifle, designated M40.

Although I'm pretty sure it's the US Army that's represented in the mod right? In which case, the M21 would be the correct weapon system for the Sniper kit.

Posted: 2014-08-06 10:41
by Mineral
We indeed only have one Vietnam faction being the us army as far as I'm aware. For the USMC maps we simply use a texture suffix changing the us army skins to USMC as it wasn't worth it at the time to make separate factions for it.

Re: Put M40 rifle as sniper kit, and M21 as marksman, as realistic

Posted: 2014-08-06 20:15
by Daniel
Can sb. of the PR:V DEVs start including a Remington M40 model (maybe the one with permission from BF2 EOD Mod) and also scoped M16 (like in BF:V) ?

Re: Put M40 rifle as sniper kit, and M21 as marksman, as realistic

Posted: 2014-08-06 21:25
by StevePl4y5
Well, if my understanding of BF2 modding is correct. All you really need to do (besides having the M40 model in the game) is copy the current sniper kit and make another replacing the M21 with the M40, and use that kit in the USMC maps instead of the M21 one.

Of course I'm just saying, don't take it as a suggestion or anything like that.

Re: Put M40 rifle as sniper kit, and M21 as marksman, as realistic

Posted: 2014-08-06 22:11
by obpmgmua
StevePl4y5 wrote:Daniel is right. During the Vietnam War the Remington Model 40x rifle became the USMC standard sniper rifle, designated M40.

Although I'm pretty sure it's the US Army that's represented in the mod right? In which case, the M21 would be the correct weapon system for the Sniper kit.
I don't think it's better to merge the US forces into one team that contains all the shared equipment.

M21 for Marksman
M40 for Sniper
M60 for AR
Etc Etc....

Re: Put M40 rifle as sniper kit, and M21 as marksman, as realistic

Posted: 2014-08-07 06:32
by Roque_THE_GAMER
im not know much about vietnam war but should the Stoner 63 be the LMG for the US marine and the M60 the HMG? sorry if i am talking bullshit.

Re: Put M40 rifle as sniper kit, and M21 as marksman, as realistic

Posted: 2014-08-07 08:56
by StevePl4y5
obpmgmua wrote:I don't think it's better to merge the US forces into one team that contains all the shared equipment.

M21 for Marksman
M40 for Sniper
M60 for AR
Etc Etc....
That's not realistic tho. PR has always tried to keep the factions and assets correct on historical maps, and on Vietnam you got USMC and US Army maps, giving the M40 to the US Army is not realistic. And placing a mixed "USMC and US Army" force in all maps is not either.
Roque_THE_GAMER wrote:im not know much about vietnam war but should the Stoner 63 be the LMG for the US marine and the M60 the HMG? sorry if i am talking bullshit.
No, the Stoner 63 was used in limited numbers in Vietnam. Mostly used by SEALs and Marines.

Posted: 2014-08-07 13:15
by Mineral
The community is free to develop a standalone USMC Vietnam faction. Not that much work but we are busy with other things.

Re: Put M40 rifle as sniper kit, and M21 as marksman, as realistic

Posted: 2014-08-07 20:32
by Daniel
[R-DEV]Mineral wrote:... but we are busy with other things.
Oh really? With normandy or falklands? If so, ok ok... -.-

Re: Put M40 rifle as sniper kit, and M21 as marksman, as realistic

Posted: 2014-08-09 02:14
by IINoddyII
Suggestions go in the suggestion forum. Threads like this are unlikely to be approved ;)