PR:Vietnam update

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Matrox
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PR:Vietnam update

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Well, most of the devs are now coming out of hiding after having a break from the latest patches. Our next stage of development has been focusing on what we want to do with the PR:V mod and how we are going to incorporate it.

We are following the route of including it within the next PR release, rather than a stand alone mod. That way, everyone gets to download it and people don't have to worry about switching mods all the time. (It also cuts our workload by a half, but thats beside the point :wink:)

We have started making further headway with the first release, and what we are anticipating to do with it. We would really like to bring back some of the older, now outdated maps such as Ghost Train, Tad Sae, and perhaps even Road to Kyonganinoningingoningsomething. We are also looking at developing some larger 2km maps, with the mindset that we would like some form of aerial presence in the form of helicopters.

Our main reason for deciding to bring back 1km maps follows our gameplay design for the weapons. We are looking towards focusing the battles at a closer distance, with a mixture of semi-auto and automatic weapons. The M16 we will be using for the US will only have 20 rounds in comparison to the AK47 30 round mag. To counter this, we gave the US 20 round mags for the M16, whereas the SKS Siminov will only have 10. It's assymetric, in that the NVA will probably fare better in CQB than the US, however we feel both sides should balance each other out.
I've created a list of the kits below for you to see what we have provisionally down. Our first release we aim to be looking at including just the USMC and NVA factions:


USMC



Unarmed
Melee
Surrender
Salute
First aid

Tanker
Kabar
Shovel
M3 Grease Gun
Smoke Grenade
Binocs
Field Dressing

Support
Kabar
Shovel
M60
M60 deployed
Smoke Grenade
Binocs
Field Dressing
Incendiary Grenade

Support Alt
Kabar
Shovel
Browning M1918/M60?
M1918 deployed/M60?
Smoke Grenade
Binocs
Field Dressing
Incendiary Grenade

Specialist
Kabar
Shovel
M1987 trenchgun
M61 Grenade
Grappling Hook
Binoculars
Field Dressing
Incendiary Grenade

Sniper
Kabar
Colt 1911
R700 Rifle (placeholder with SSG1 and wooden frame?)
Tripflare
Radio
Purple signal smoke
Spotting scope?
Field dressing

Rifleman AT
Kabar
Shovel
M16
M72 LAW
M61 Grenade
Smoke Grenade
Binocs
Field Dressing
Incendiary Grenade

Rifleman AT Alt
Kabar
Shovel
M14 Irons
IDF LAW
M61 Grenade
Smoke Grenade
Binocs
Field dressing
Incendiary Grenade

Rifleman AP
Kabar
Shovel
M16
Claymore
Claymore sec
Tripflare
Binocs
Field Dressing
Incendiary Grenade


Rifleman AP Alt
Kabar
Shovel
M14 Irons
Claymore
Claymore sec
Tripflare
Binocs
Field dressing
Incendiary Grenade

pilot
Melee
Colt M1911
Surrender
Signal Grenade
Field Dressing
parachute

Rifleman
Kabar
Shovel
M16
M61 Grenade
Smoke Grenade
Ammo Bag
Binocs
Field Dressing
Incendiary Grenade

Rifleman Alt
Kabar
Shovel
M14
M61 Grenade
Smoke Grenade
Ammo bag
Binocs
Field dressing
Incendiary Grenade

Officer
Kabar[/COLOR]
Colt m1911[/COLOR]
M16
M61 Grenade
Radio
Signal Smoke
Field dressing
Incendiary Grenade

Officer Alt
Kabar
Colt m1911
M14 Irons
M61 Grenade
Radio
Signal Smoke
Field Dressing
Incendiary Grenade

Medic
Kabar
Resuscitate
M14 Irons
Medkit
Smoke Grenade
Morphine
Binoculars
Incendiary Grenade
Field dressing

Marksman
Kabar
Shovel
M14 scope
M14 deployed
M61 Grenade
Smoke Grenade
Binocs
Field Dresing
Incendiary Grenade

Marksman Alt
Kabar
Shovel
M14 irons
M14 irons deployed
M61 Grenade
Smoke nade
Binocs
Field dressing
Incendiary Grenade

Engineer
Kabar
Shovel
M14
Wrench
AT Mine
C4 Large/TNT?
Binocs
Field Dressing
Incendiary Grenade

HAT
Kabar
Shovel
M14
M20 Super Bazooka
Smoke Grenade
Binocs
Field Dressing
Incendiary Grenade

Grenadier
Kabar
Shovel
M16 UGL
UGL explosive
UGL smoke
Binocs
Field Dressing
Incendiary Grenade


Grenadier Alt
Kabar
Shovel
M14
M79 launcher explosive
M79 launcher smoke
Binocs
Field Dressing
Incendiary Grenade

AA
Kabar
Shovel
M14
FM Stinger
Smoke Grenade
Field Dressing


North Vietnamese Army


Unarmed
Melee
Surrender
Salute
First aid

Tanker
AK Bayonet
Shovel
Mat49
Smoke Grenade
Binocs
Field Dressing

Support
AK Bayonet
Shovel
PKM
PKM deployed
Smoke Grenade
Binocs
Field Dressing
Incendiary Grenade

Support Alt
AK Bayonet
Shovel
RPK
RPK Deployed
Smoke Grenade
Binocs
Field Dressing
Incendiary Grenade

Specialist
AK Bayonet
Shovel
PPSH
F1 Grenade
Grappling Hook
Binoculars
Field Dressing
Incendiary Grenade

Sniper
AK Bayonet
Makarov
Moisin Nagant
Tripflare
Radio
Purple signal smoke
Field dressing

Rifleman AT
AK Bayonet
Shovel
AK47
RPG-2
F1 Grenade
Smoke Grenade
Binocs
Field Dressing
Incendiary Grenade

Rifleman AT Alt
AK Bayonet
Shovel
SKS Siminov
RPG-2
F1 Grenade
Smoke Grenade
Binocs
Field dressing
Incendiary Grenade

Rifleman AP
AK Bayonet
Shovel
AK47
Claymore
Claymore sec
Tripflare
Binocs
Field Dressing
Incendiary Grenade


Rifleman AP Alt
AK Bayonet
Shovel
SKS Siminov
Claymore
Claymore sec
Tripflare
Binocs
Field dressing
Incendiary Grenade

Pilot
AK Bayonet
Makarov
Surrender
Signal Grenade
Field Dressing
Parachute

Rifleman
AK Bayonet
Shovel
AK47
F1 Grenade
Smoke Grenade
Ammo Bag
Binocs
Field Dressing
Incendiary Grenade

Rifleman Alt
AK Bayonet
Shovel
SKS Siminov
F1 Grenade
Smoke Grenade
Ammo bag
Binocs
Field dressing
Incendiary Grenade

Officer
AK Bayonet
Makarov
AK47
F1 Grenade
Radio
Signal Smoke
Field dressing
Incendiary Grenade

Officer Alt
AK Bayonet
Makarov
SKS Siminov
F1 Grenade
Radio
Signal Smoke
Field Dressing
Incendiary Grenade

Medic
AK Bayonet
Resuscitate
Ak47
Medkit
Smoke Grenade
Morphine
Binoculars
Incendiary Grenade
Field dressing

Marksman
AK Bayonet
Shovel
Dragunov
Dragunov
F1 Grenade
Smoke Grenade
Binocs
Field Dresing
Incendiary Grenade

Marksman Alt
AK Bayonet[/COLOR]
Shovel[/COLOR]
Dragunov Irons
Dragunov irons deployed
F1 grenade
Smoke nade
Binocs
Field dressing
Incendiary Grenade

Engineer
AK Bayonet
Shovel
SKS Siminov
Wrench
AT Mine
C4 Large
Binocs
Field Dressing
Incendiary Grenade

HAT
AK Bayonet
Shovel
SKS Siminov
RPG7
Smoke Grenade
Binocs
Field Dressing
Incendiary Grenade

Grenadier
AK Bayonet
Shovel
AK47 UGL
UGL explosive
UGL smoke
Binocs
Field Dressing
Incendiary Grenade

Grenadier Alt
AK Bayonet
Shovel
SKS Siminov
SKS Siminov rifle grenade
SKS rifle grenade smoke
Binocs
Field Dressing
Incendiary Grenade

AA
AK Bayonet
Shovel
SKS Siminov
SA7 Grail
Smoke Grenade
Field Dressing

So as you can see, we have a fair bit of development to do. None of these lists are final, and we are trying to work out a compromise between balancing the factions and authenticity. What we would like to iterate is that development has picked up, the mod is not dead and it is moving forward. Over the next few months more information and images will come out as and when the other devs deem fit. Hopefully, there will also be some in-game screen shots in the not so distant future.

Seeing as all dev blogs need at least some images and not just a wall of text, have a look below:

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Get some marines :firing:

Matrox
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Alek-say
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Post by Alek-say »

Great! Just great! So, in the next version of PR we will choose between maps or something like in "Battlefield: bad Company 2"? When in the main menu you can press "Vietnam" mod.
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ChallengerCC
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Post by ChallengerCC »

yeah cool !
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Post by SignorMagnifico »

The 1911 looks awesome.
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Wakain
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Post by Wakain »

I guess we'll find some vietnam maps in the pr:vanilla map roulation or perhaps even vietnam-specific servers.

excellent read, nice to see that:
A. a real team is working on pr:v now instead of a few individuals (all respect for Trahn Lee and Afterdune of course)
B. pr:v is starting to take shape by now (sort of public design plan ftw!)
C. 30rd m16 mags are being boycotted(yay!)
D. SKS riflegrenades.

just one thing guys: m16/AK47 UGL?
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Post by BIGsmalll »

I saw the update on my facebook mobile wall and in 1.8 seconds was already at the computer reading. Can't wait! Really looking forward to this.. I just hope I'll be able to get enough space on the comp...
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Post by ledo1222 »

:D Finally some love
-The Mods cant Silence me!
-Its all a Conspiracy all OF IT!
-Boys get the duck tape ready..... Umm.....

Been palying PR:ARMA2 since 0.1v beta
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Matrox
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Post by Matrox »

Alek-say;bt6570 wrote:Great! Just great! So, in the next version of PR we will choose between maps or something like in "Battlefield: bad Company 2"? When in the main menu you can press "Vietnam" mod.
We will form it so it should come up in the map rotation. It will allow the server admins to decide whether or not they want to play the maps, or even if they wish to have a vietnam specific server. It should give the community a greater opportunity to play the Vietnam mod.

We are also looking into the possibility of releasing more maps after the release as DLC or map packs. That way, Server Admins who do run Vietnam only servers should have a wide enough variety to keep their server populations going strong.
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Post by ShavedAlpaca »

*jizzed in my pantalones*
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Post by JAMES_AT_Battlefield »

awesomeness !
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Alek-say
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Post by Alek-say »

[R-DEV]Matrox;bt6579 wrote:We will form it so it should come up in the map rotation. It will allow the server admins to decide whether or not they want to play the maps, or even if they wish to have a vietnam specific server. It should give the community a greater opportunity to play the Vietnam mod.

We are also looking into the possibility of releasing more maps after the release as DLC or map packs. That way, Server Admins who do run Vietnam only servers should have a wide enough variety to keep their server populations going strong.
So good decision! And about AKM? Will be it in Project Reality: Vietnam mod?
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Matrox
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Post by Matrox »

Probably when we introduce the vietcong faction. They should be more like a militia faction with a wider variety of weapons and a solid set of vehicles. We are trying to set up the NVA as a more conventional force.
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Alek-say
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Post by Alek-say »

It's good to know. Because, I would like to see many weapons such as: Mossin Nagant, PPS-43, RPD, PPD etc.
Thank you for information very much! I hope to see more information and screens soon!
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Post by Yrkidding »

that M14 looks beautiful, lookin forward to this one definitely
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Post by Zulnex »

Looking splendid. Thank you very much.8-)
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Post by Eddy25 »

Menu Song zxc

Vietcong - Soundtrack - YouTube
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Post by Twonkle »

"D:\Spellen\Battlefield 2\Mods\pr_ww2_repo\weapons\handheld\Colt1911\Meshes\Colt1911.bundledmesh"

I see that you're working on some high-res stuff for the normandy mod too, thought most the models n stuff there would be pretty low poly/low res. :)
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Post by ma21212 »

Why UGL for m16? why not M79 with a) HE rounds for explosives and b) shotgun round
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Post by Adriaan »

ma21212;bt6590 wrote:Why UGL for m16? why not M79 with a) HE rounds for explosives and b) shotgun round
The M79 is included in the US grenadier alt kit.
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Peeta
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Post by Peeta »

M...M....M14???

Must have.

Also, it's nice to know the project isn't dead like many of us feared. :D
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