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Ive seen this happen on several occasions. On fallujah west the most.

The tanks pwning the insurgent team as usual , So an insurgent switches to U.S. and gets a hat kit, he goes off into an alley some where and switches back to Insurgent team, His kit stays on the ground for 5 minutes so he runs back to where he switched teams, and gets the hat kit and pwns the tank.

5 minute grounded kits means it can be exploited to the max.


What are your thoughts on this tactic?

Is it fair ?

Will you try it ?

Will servers adjust rules so its ban on sight if this happens ?

I certainly hope players wouldn't stoop so low as to exploit the game to gain a competitive advantage. It is just a game after all.

Unfortunately, the internet does bring out the worst in people and I wouldn't be surprised if people actually followed through with it.

I would consider switching teams with the soul intention of stealing limited kits a kickable offense.

Well I can assure you, we catch wind of that in our servers and the offender will be dealt with. See it happening let an admin know, thats cheating just as much as ghosting. Its the same as going out with a kit and giving to the Insurgents/Taliban.

I havent seen this happen, but I hope Admins step in, also Autobalance means you cant always switch at will. I certainly like it being revived now means I am likely to keep my kit.

Also wth is ghosting ?

ghosting is when you tell or get told things about the enemy team from a guy on their side.

So clans usually get accused of ghosting when some of the clan is on a different side than the other.

Typical ghosting is usually "cache is in b3-4, in the T-building" or something like that.

I love the new 5 minute kits, but the server admins should prevent that.

Simple prevention would be a 2 or 3 minute time where you can't request or pickup kits after team switching should prevent this. At least for the most par

Also who ever would do such a thing should be kicked in the balls

Koroush47 wrote:I love the new 5 minute kits, but the server admins should prevent that.

I have mixed feelings about the 5 minutes. As an insurgent on Archer, I got a rifleman kit off a dead Canadian. A little while later I got killed (village on the west side), but it wasn't far from a spawn point, so I could go back to where I died, kick my carcass, and get the Canadian kit back. This happened about 3 times (I tend to die a lot on insurgency!). It feels a little dirty, thinking back on it now. On the other hand, it's pretty common to tell squadmates to pick up important/limited kits if you go down. (I could have let others in my squad know there was a kit to be picked up, but pretty much everyone had obtained a Canadian kit by that time.)

So if re-spawning to find/reclaim a kit is sketchy to me, I'm certainly for banning anyone doing what the OP said.

AgentMongoose wrote:Simple prevention would be a 2 or 3 minute time where you can't request or pickup kits after team switching should prevent this. At least for the most par

Also who ever would do such a thing should be kicked in the balls

If this applies for autobalance it would make me cry- nothing sucks worse to begin with than getting swapped.

Yeah thats absolute bullcrap and low, and should be a banable offense. I don't say just kick because they can just come back and do it, to me its one of the worst things you can do in PR because thats just downright exploitation and cheating. Should be no warn because you know thats absolutely wrong, I mean any player new or old has the simple knowledge not to do such ****.

AgentMongoose wrote:Simple prevention would be a 2 or 3 minute time where you can't request or pickup kits after team switching should prevent this. At least for the most par

Also who ever would do such a thing should be kicked in the balls

Yeah I agree with you man, this would put the stops to it and I think should be considered as a tweak for the next release.

AgentMongoose wrote:Simple prevention would be a 2 or 3 minute time where you can't request or pickup kits after team switching should prevent this. At least for the most par

Also who ever would do such a thing should be kicked in the balls

Isn't there already a 2 minute block when you join a squad after round start?

stealth420 wrote:Ive seen this happen on several occasions. On fallujah west the most.

The tanks pwning the insurgent team as usual , So an insurgent switches to U.S. and gets a hat kit, he goes off into an alley some where and switches back to Insurgent team, His kit stays on the ground for 5 minutes so he runs back to where he switched teams, and gets the hat kit and pwns the tank.

It seems to me mate that you are making a very big assumption, what are the chances an Insurgent just happened to kill an enemy with a hat kit and take it? I personally can't see anyone going to so much effort to get such a kit and if you saw this why didn't you go wait and kill him? You said you have seen this on several occasions, you can fix the issue yourself.

Protector wrote:It seems to me mate that you are making a very big assumption, what are the chances an Insurgent just happened to kill an enemy with a hat kit and take it? I personally can't see anyone going to so much effort to get such a kit and if you saw this why didn't you go wait and kill him? You said you have seen this on several occasions, you can fix the issue yourself.

You can't always see if someone is doing it. Also, you must take into account the fact that the HAT kit isn't regularly picked up on Insurgency as it has no role other than taking out a cache through a window.

It simply isn't practical since if you die, you can say goodbye to your armored assets.

dtacs wrote:you must take into account the fact that the HAT kit isn't regularly picked up on Insurgency as it has no role other than taking out a cache through a window.

Well it can be used for taking out suicide cars and technicals also... I just think it sounds very paranoid that this guy has seen insurgents "several" times switch teams and steal kits but never got it dealt with by the admin or atleast named and shamed the person?

If i saw this I would get all my squad to setup around the kit and wait for the little fucker to come back and make sure each one of us shoots him atleast twice Problem dealt with atleast whilst i'm on the server.

Anyone caught on the T&T server doing this will be banned permanently, with no prior warning. I'd expect all server admins to act in the same way.

Its a cheap exploit.

on the hardcore server you are kciked for entering the city with a HAT kit

AgentMongoose wrote:Simple prevention would be a 2 or 3 minute time where you can't request or pickup kits after team switching should prevent this.

Well, you need to join a squad and wait 2 mins before requesting if you want a kit, so thats there. That's not the issue though, its someone bringing the kit to somewhere, switching teams then getting back to that spot under remaining 4 minutes and picking the kit up again.

I don't think its a major issue especially as it must be a tiny ammount of people who are sad enough to do this! We love the 5 minutes for dropped kits please don't change

Just remove possibility to request HAT by BLUFOR on certain insurgency maps - they don't need it anyway and it would stop such exploits.