Contact! The Herbiie Way - PREWAR

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Herbiie
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Contact! The Herbiie Way - PREWAR

Post by Herbiie »

Hey Guys,

Just a quick guide type thing to help you survive under fire, that's loosely based on British methods. It can be used in Organised play or in Pubbie Play with a VoiP Squad.

As the Thread title suggests this is the acronym PREWAR:
Preparation
Reaction to Effective Enemy Fire
Enemy Location
Winning The FireFight
Advance & Assault/Bug Out
Re-Group/Re-Org

Preparation:
PPPPPP
Planning and Preparation Prevents Piss Poor Performance.

This part of the procedure takes part at a fire Base/Main/Wherever you're starting from, as long as your entire squad is there and there's a crate. To help you remember what to do I've split this into the Acronym KAMP:
Kits
Ammunition
Members
Plan

Kits-
Make sure you have all the kits you want/need. Medic, AR, & Specialist are pretty basic ones, but also make sure you have a guy with a Rifleman kit to provide emergency ammo - you never know what might happen.

Ammunition-
Make sure everyone's ammo is full, just ask them/tell them to make sure their ammo is full.

Members-
Make sure all your squad members are there.

Plan-
You should have a plan so you know what you're doing, tell your squad what you're going to do so they all understand, set a clear objective and tell your squad how you plan to achieve this.

Preparation shouldn't take longer than a couple of minutes. After everything's ready and you've gone through KAMP, move out.

Reaction To Effective Enemy Fire.

A major word in the above sentence is "Effective". Hearing shooting, or stray rounds coming nearby is not effective enemy fire. Effective Enemy Fire is you are being deliberately shot at, lots of shots are hitting around you & the fire is quite accurate.

The first thing to do is to return fire - this can be done while moving, fire in what you hope is the direction the enemy is coming from while taking cover, you shouldn't be firing more than 15-20 rounds doing this. Take Cover and start returning fire with where you think the Enemy is firing from.

Enemy Location.

Now you're squad is nice & safe in cover, ask your guys if they can see where the enemy is, once you've found out where they are put a marker n them & tell the squad where they are. While this is happening your squad should still be returning fire.

Winning The Fire fight.
Shoot them more than they shoot you.

Get suppressing fire on their position, keep their heads down, once your squad can move without being shot at move onto the next step.

Advance & Assault/Bug Out.
Now it's time to make a decision. Should you move up & take out the enemy, or pull back? Think about the surrounding terrain, would it be easy to flank the enemy? is there good cover? Keep in mind that as you advance your squad will be putting down less suppressing fire, so the enemy may begin to fire back.

If you decide to bug out then move back slowly & careful, keeping the enemy suppressed & staying calm, don't just sprint back, make it so the enemy won't notice you're leaving until you're gone.

If you decide to assault then you must think about how to go about this - use the environment to your advantage, if there's a ditch running along a flank use it to get close to your enemy - avoid running over open ground. Leave some of the squad behind to provide suppressing fire, remembering that the enemy may be moving up on them so you've got to make sure they're safe, and that you're medic's safe. Once you get to the enemy's positions use grenades to clear it, then when the enemy is suppressed, bleeding, confused etc. stop laying down fire & move in with shotguns & rifles on automatic. Remember to make sure everyone's mags are full before going in.


Re-Group.
Bring your squad together, & check for Casualties and Ammunition (Cas&Amm) - make sure everyone is healed up and no one has run out of ammo, get everyone to tell you how much ammunition they have. Then carry on with your plan, or move back to the FB to start at preparation again. If you get contacted again go to Reaction To Effective Enemy Fire.


Hope it helps :D
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Post by goguapsy »

I like that. Sure there are some more detailed guys, such as Danger's guide to receiving enemy fire, but this is a good read.

But I want to ask you something, if you are a squad and you are being attacked by effective fire, how the HELL are you gonna get fire superiority, unless you have, of course, armor support?

Nice guide! I would just suggest that, in the beginning of the round, you do this (if it is AAS): Before game time, during squad layout time, assign kits and kick anyone who gets a kit you didn't ask for on purpose (it depends on your style of gameplay, really. Maybe you tolerate, maybe you don't).

Hop in a vehicle. Drive to first flag.

THEN make the plan -- Main Bases are bound to be loud.
Guys, when a new player comes, just answer his question and go on your merry way, instead of going berserk! It's THAT simple! :D

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Herbiie
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goguapsy wrote:if you are a squad and you are being attacked by effective fire, how the HELL are you gonna get fire superiority, unless you have, of course, armor support?
Effective fire is just fire aimed at you, so you fire back & try to suppress the enemy back, it'll take time but it's do-able.
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Post by burghUK »

All these acronyms seem quite pointless. If you don't have the common sense to return fire , supress and capitalize on the opportunity then how will you remember an acronym?and for that matter , if you genuinly require this then why aren't you playing COD?

(not an attack at you herbiie , just the mindless mob)
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crAck_sh0t wrote:All these acronyms seem quite pointless. If you don't have the common sense to return fire , supress and capitalize on the opportunity then how will you remember an acronym?and for that matter , if you genuinly require this then why aren't you playing COD?

(not an attack at you herbiie , just the mindless mob)
When under Pressure having a set procedure helps, & the Acronyms help remember it.

You'd be surprised the amount of people who'll just stay still & return fire until they get hit, THEN take cover. & Your Squad Members will take more orders from you etc. if you're confident in what you're doing, if you're not the type of person who can just take charge of a situation then going through in your head (for e.g.),

Right at the FOB, what to do? Preperation, right, KAMP,

"I want a Specialist, medic, AR & lat, who wants to take them?"
"Everyone got the kits? Everyone's ammo OK? Everyone Here? Right, we're going to mosque, so we can cap east city, follow me."

Then when you start coming under fire thinking, aaargh they're shooting at us right, what next, "Everyone take cover & return fire! Quick!" ... "Can anyone see where they are?... Right, enemies on the marker, Light 'em up!"

Right, we're winning the firefight, what now, PREWA Assault. etc. etc. etc. just makes it easier to remember :)

Some people don't really know how to Squad Lead, hopefully if they read this they'll feel a bit more confident about what to do :)
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Well, I hope the new suppressive system does its job in this release, because TBH in PR I've never been afraid of suppressive fire if I was the effective-firing person.
Guys, when a new player comes, just answer his question and go on your merry way, instead of going berserk! It's THAT simple! :D

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goguapsy wrote:Well, I hope the new suppressive system does its job in this release, because TBH in PR I've never been afraid of suppressive fire if I was the effective-firing person.
Does it have to do much more than it does right now?

Suppressive fire doesn't necessarily mean inaccurate fire. If well executed, supressive fire should mean that you literally _can't_ poke your head out, because you'll get shot.

So basically, when in doubt in an engagement: pour as much fire down as possible and you're more likely to win.
The fight will now be fought much more on your terms, and the enemy probably can't react as effectively.
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Wrestlers_Konglisch wrote: So basically, when in doubt in an engagement: pour as much fire down as possible and you're more likely to win.
The fight will now be fought much more on your terms, and the enemy probably can't react as effectively.
This is what you should be doing in "Winning The Firefight." lots of times I've heard of squads being "pinned down", that also means suppressed, there's the suppression effect in PR, if rounds are hitting their cover the enemy won't be able to see anything and therefore won't be able to fire back accurately, though they probably will try to get out of there/just stay low.

The reason most people think that suppressing fire doesn't work is because they've never used it/had it used on them - it's actually quite a rare thing in PR, most people only fire if they know they are going to hit. Suppressing fire works best if you split the fire up, say have 3 guys just firing loads of rounds into the enemy position to keep their heads down & 1 or 2 killing them when they stick their head up. Works well, especially if you have a marksman.
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Yeah, Wrestlers and Herbiie, I think I know what you guys mean.

I agree, it is pretty effective if used a lot, but in a firefight itself, in which I've started firing first, the responsive suppressive fire never was an issue --- your main threat would be the AR, right? Well, you have the effective fire element, so you can take him out first!
Guys, when a new player comes, just answer his question and go on your merry way, instead of going berserk! It's THAT simple! :D

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by goguapsy But I want to ask you something, if you are a squad and you are being attacked by effective fire, how the HELL are you gonna get fire superiority, unless you have, of course, armor support?

You 'break contact'. There are drills for this used in the military.
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Andersson wrote:You 'break contact'. There are drills for this used in the military.
Cool! Share with us so we can use against each other!
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samthegreat4
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Here ya go matie:
Chapter 2 Battle Drill 3
Herbiie
''I never have had to wait for deviation, all you have to do is fire from the hip alot screaming like a girl like I do and you'll be fine.''

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3bVctvzcwQ&feature=related
Some comment on IDF movie
''Key words: two dead terrorists. End of story. High fuckin 5.''
goguapsy
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samthegreat4 wrote:Here ya go matie:
Chapter 2 Battle Drill 3
Well, pretty simple, makes sense.

Thanks for the link!
Guys, when a new player comes, just answer his question and go on your merry way, instead of going berserk! It's THAT simple! :D

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No problem, was actually quite cool to read about that drill.
Herbiie
''I never have had to wait for deviation, all you have to do is fire from the hip alot screaming like a girl like I do and you'll be fine.''

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3bVctvzcwQ&feature=related
Some comment on IDF movie
''Key words: two dead terrorists. End of story. High fuckin 5.''
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