[Weapon] MG3 Tripod-mount

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samogon100500
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[Weapon] MG3 Tripod-mount

Post by samogon100500 »

Hi.

As some one says: want it = make it.

So my suggestion - make for German and MEC forces MG3 to replace HMGs on them.

General reasons:
For German army:
1)They don't have M2 .50cal MGs in real life.
2)They got too much heavy armored vehicles(IFV Puma also called Infantry Tank in German language (Schutzenpanzer))
3)Make less asymmetry on Silent Eagle.How this is to much asymmetrical balance cuz every german vehicle have thermal sights and big armor.Rus side no have thermal sights(On APCs) and have paper armor(But have overpowered 30mm cannons and Tank Guided Missiles :-P )
For MEC:
1)They could be have BMP2M.they could be muck overpowered that BMP3.MEC team must be have some bad sides.
P.S on Kashan G3's recoil isn't bad side - they got more power thats M4.

This Tripod already got scope what make this better thats other HMGs.
In my opinion - madness firerate make don't make this MG less powered against infantry targets.

So there is pictures(MG42 mounted,but tripod must be right):
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And I think ISAF must be have leet mount with EO-Tech reflex sight like this IMO:
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And what I make(not so much but am just started.)
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Noeme
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Post by Noeme »

Looks good... I think it would be nice to have ingame.. Only concern could be its ability to stop a car/truck(see gary)...

Not a bad idea at all though..
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Post by R|ksa »

samogon100500 wrote: And I think ISAF must be have leet mount with EO-Tech reflex sight like this IMO:
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That is airsoft gun :lol:
Wakain
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Post by Wakain »

eh samo, the tripod you're showing is the ww2 era lafette tripod, I wouldn't have known of it's very existence if fh2 didn't had it ingame, I don't know if fh2 shares assets but if they do, a reskin seems to be all that's needed.

my second concern is that this is a deployable infantry asset, I'm not sure if this is used on vehicles, if I recall correctly the germans use a sort of crows system on their vehicles.

lol nevermind about that last thing, when rereading your post I see you mean to replace the deployable HMG's. :p
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samogon100500
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Post by samogon100500 »

R|ksa wrote:That is airsoft gun :lol:
it's just example.What you think about that?
This is not airsoft.
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WW2 and modern tripod are different.
This is WW2 tripod.
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Watch 1st post.They really different.
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lucky.BOY
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Post by lucky.BOY »

If it is used IRL, then yes, go for it!

Like how the scope is done, so you dont have to show your head :)
The gun is already used by MEC (AR kit), isnt it ? If yes, i guess you dont have to make the weapon, only use the existing model and make the tripod around it. It will save your time and game resources.
But im not a modder, better ask some1 else.

cheers, lucky
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Post by Wakain »

allright, I rest my case, you have my blessing ;)
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Post by samogon100500 »

lucky.BOY wrote:If it is used IRL, then yes, go for it!

Like how the scope is done, so you dont have to show your head :)
The gun is already used by MEC (AR kit), isnt it ? If yes, i guess you dont have to make the weapon, only use the existing model and make the tripod around it. It will save your time and game resources.
But im not a modder, better ask some1 else.

cheers, lucky
:p :p :p :p
This on my renders PR's MG3. :lol:

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Post by lucky.BOY »

samogon100500 wrote: :p :p :p :p
Ahh, you confused me by the fact it aint textured. Nevermind, then :o ops: ...
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Post by Rhino »

I dont see where we would use this since the MG3 is a GPMG and not a HMG....
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Post by Rhino »

DeltaFart wrote:Main bases for base defense?
can use the current tripod version for that, as I have in the Muttrah Fort...

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Post by DeltaFart »

Yeah but this just looks too damn cool haha
no other way to make this logical to make
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[R-DEV]Rhino wrote:I dont see where we would use this since the MG3 is a GPMG and not a HMG....
Yeah,i know it's GMPG.But I think they can be replace HMG on German and MEC teams.
This is less powered,but have madness firerate.

Just IMO - if make this as deployable assets = balance not changed,cuz deployable HMG/GMPG - using very rarely.
Just I got my lockal forum,where guys says - M2 on German Army is unrealistic anyone make MG3 as deployable MG,it's make this faction more unique.
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Post by Rhino »

samogon100500 wrote:Yeah,i know it's GMPG.But I think they can be replace HMG on German and MEC teams.
This is less powered,but have madness firerate.
unless we start doing alternative deployable MG nests with GPMGs instead of HMGs, this isn't going to be used as for obvious reasons we want to keep all deployable nests on the same power levels, otherwise you end up with one side having more powerful deployables than another.

You can make this if you like, I'm just saying its unlikely we will ever use it.
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[R-DEV]Rhino wrote:You can make this if you like, I'm just saying its unlikely we will ever use it.
you don't understand me how.
It's not alternative MG nest.Actually - any OPFOR vehicle can destroy HMG nest faster that they make any damage for them(Except for Ins. .50cal car,but both .50 and 7.62 bullet can destroy that).

This is not so much unbalance thats you think.General idea of deployable HMGs/GMPGs - killing infantry.

Realistic point of this suggestion - Bundeswehr no have M2 .50.Infantry use MG3(As GMPG tripod,sometimes as Infantry MG),Jeeps using MG3 CROW,Tanks usin MG3
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Post by STORM-Mama »

I agree with Samogon... The MG3 and M2 are equally effective against infantry targets (and to balance things out, if necessary, you can put a scope on the MG3). Against infantry, I bet the MG3 actually will be more effective because of its ROF... And that's actually a good tradeoff for less penetrating ability vs. light vehicles. :P

Does that "extra power" of the .50 really do that much difference in any kind of engagement where the depoyable MGs can realistically be used in game?
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Post by Rhino »

samogon100500 wrote:you don't understand me how.
No I understand what you mean just fine and I'm telling you, its not going to happen unless like I've said, we make alternative MG nests with GPMGs instead of HMGs as well which tbh is unlikely, at least until we get a new M240 model.

STORM-Mama wrote:I agree with Samogon... The MG3 and M2 are equally effective against infantry targets
but not against light vehicles and choppers which is a pretty critical factor.
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[quote=""'[R-DEV"]Rhino;1525068']but not against light vehicles and choppers which is a pretty critical factor.[/quote]

It's could be bad side of this fraction.For Main Base defense better idea to using GMG.

[quote="162eRI""]What our German friends have to say to this? They surely must know more about it?

PS: I thought the German army was using M2 HMG?!!?[/quote]

1)Yeah,i will see opinion of MA.May be make pool on general discussion forum?
2)I don't thinks so they have M2.What i found:
Heckler & Koch G36?5.56 mm x 45 assault rifle (Version G36K and G36C for several branches including Special Forces)
Heckler & Koch MG4?5.56 mm light machine gun
MG3?7.62 mm x 51 machine gun
G8?7.62 mm x 51 automatic rifle, only used by special forces
HK21E?7.62 mm x 51 machine gun, only used by special forces
M3M-12.7 mm x 99 heavy machine gun, used on armored vehicles and CH-53 helicopters
Heckler & Koch MP7?4.6 mm x 30 submachine gun, replacing the MP2
MP2?9 x 19 mm submachine gun
Heckler & Koch MP5?9 x 19 mm submachine gun, used by various units like the Feldj?ger and special forces
Heckler & Koch P8?9 x 19 mm pistol
Remington 870 - shotgun, used in small numbers by special forces and the military police (Feldj?ger)
G22?7.62 mm x 66.5B sniper rifle
G24?sniper rifle, only used by special forces
G82?sniper rifle
HK MSG3?7.62 mm x 51 designated marksman rifle
Dynamit Nobel Panzerfaust 3?anti-tank rocket launcher
Raytheon Fliegerfaust 2 (FIM-92 Stinger)?infrared homing surface-to-air missile
MILAN?anti-tank guided missile system
Granatpistole 40mm?grenade launcher
HK GMG?grenade autocannon
AG36?grenade launcher
KM2000?172 mm tantō style blade standard combat knife
TOW could be unrealistic too.

IMO - German faction still not done,like canada in 0.9 version.
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