[Maps] PR v0.9 Map Overviews

[alec89]

During the first and second Chechen war, they operated APCs, tanks and even helicopters, to a small degree.

lol, no they didnt. Deffinately not helos. Second chechen became an insurgency.

[WilsonPL]

Instead of tanks and apcs for Chechens i prefer fast light unarmoured vehicles . For example technical with mounted SPG9, ZSU mounted on Ural truck. etc.

Fast unarmoured vehicles with large firepower.

[LeChuckle]

lol, no they didnt. Deffinately not helos. Second chechen became an insurgency.

even if they did, there probably wouldnt have been many. thats why i like wilsons idea about having these light vehicles plus the occasional BRDM2 i guess

[motherdear]

lol, no they didnt. Deffinately not helos. Second chechen became an insurgency.

back it up with sources will ya. we have provided tons of sources for this before and we have active russian personnel that i believe we have asked these questions.

they are a militia and could in theory be running any equipment they want.

no matter what it gives us some gameplay that would not be possible otherwise, which i think is a lot more worth than speculating about realism of deployment or not. as stated by jigsaw we are not aiming for real life conflicts because it would limit us tremendously in what we can do.

i think the gameplay against the militia is worth it even though it might not be realistic if they are chechens. but then again it might have been a bad idea to call them chechens to start with since they just started out as a militia faction (which we are going back to now)
stop complaining about small stuff like this because it really isn't a big deal.

[DankE_SPB]

During the first and second Chechen war, they operated APCs, tanks and even helicopters, to a small degree.

in 1st war they had few tanks(T-72) but definitely not helicopters and spandrels
small amount of L-** training aircrafts were in their hands, but all were destroyed on the ground
i posted list of equipment they acquired before, will see if i can find it
one of
CHECHNYA. THE WHITE BOOK

The following items were seized:
from the 173d District Training Centre:
42 tanks,
34 ICVs,
3 APCs,
145 artillery pieces and mortars;
15 AA systems;
about 500 vehicles;
about 40,000 units of small arms;
60,000 tonnes of inventories.

from Air Defence troops:
23 radars;
939 units of small arms;
319,500 rounds of munitions;
304 vehicles.

in the 2nd war they didnt have any kind of heavy assets

[Protector]

In this picture are they chechens or russians?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... t-down.jpg
If chechens they have one helicopter

[LeChuckle]

aaah, didnt see the updated pictures. "chechen militia" are now "militia" - solves all problems

[Nebsif]

>.<! Those small and pointless thingies delay the release..

[DankE_SPB]

sauce

Lent and acquired equipment and arms, 1994
* 2 tactical rocket launchers(most likely Luna- my comment) in non-prepared to combat state
* 111 L-39 и 149 L-29 aircrafts, some of them converted into light attack planes , ; 3 MiG-17 and 2 MiG-15; 6 An-2 and 2 Mi-8 helicopters, 117 R-23 and R-24 missiles, 126 R-60 missiles; nearly 7 thousand shells for GSh-23 cannon
* 42 Т-62 and Т-72 tanks; 34 BMP-1 and -2; 30 BTR-70 и BRDM; 44 MT-LB, 942 cars. 18 MLRS GRAD and more than 1000 missiles for them.
* 139 artillery systems, including 30 122-mm howitzers D-ЗО and 24 thousand shells for it ; also SPH 2S1 and 2SЗ; anti-tank cannons MT-12.
* 5 SAMs, 25 AAA of different types, 88 MANPADS; 105 missiles for S-75.
* 590 units of ATGM launchers, including 2 Konkurs, 24 Fagot, 51 Metis, 113 RPG-7.
* Nearly 50 thousand units of small arms, more than 150 thousand grenades
* 27 train carriages of various ammo; 1620 tonns of fuel; nearly 10 thousand kits of clothes, 72 tonnes of food; 90 tonns of medical stuff

even though they had lots of air assets on paper, as far as i'm aware, none of them managed to take off due to destroyed and captured runways and destroyed aircrafts on ground
ontop of it, there were only 41 pilots in chechnya as of 1995

[Protector]

I'm very intrigued about the canadians and what they will be like...

[rrrrrkkkkk]

beirut could be idf x mec

iron ridge aas could be russia x ukraine (future release), since it's in ukraine

kozelsk could remain russia x chechens, since it's in russia

[Outlawz7]

beirut could be idf x mec

iron ridge aas could be russia x ukraine (future release), since it's in ukraine

kozelsk could remain russia x chechens, since it's in russia

1. yay for stereotypes

2. We don't have a Ukraine faction and how do you know it's in Ukraine...

3. Um, it still is

[DankE_SPB]

2. We don't have a Ukraine faction and how do you know it's in Ukraine...

bottom right


and now the reel is outdated

[Panzerfire]

huh.... Now that I'm looking carefully at that Iron Ridge screenshot I've started wondering.

Perhaps I should have asked before but... Is Iron Ridge based totally or at least partially on Pripyat, Ukraine?

[Bagger]

looks great, no chechens anymore?

[JM/Maukka]

Great job!

[rrrrrkkkkk]

fools road, dragon fly and ochamchira are all based in Georgia


In 9th August 2008 russian ships and amphibian forces disembarked in ochamchira


the best choice would be russian x georgians in these places, but it would be a hard work for the russian community.

[evya]

This is a contradiction:

I, for one, would very much like to see a fourth MEC map included. IMO. The Russians should be removed from the Israeli maps, and be replaced with MEC. Its a complete stretch to have Russians fighting the Israelis when no such war has ever occured. Karbala insurgency, as I suggested in the suggestion box, should become an insurgency map for the MEC since the US army already has Ramiel.

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Edit: I forgot to give my compliments to the dev team for this job! The maps look very nice.

israel did fight russian jets and shot down few during the war of Attrition

The Israeli successes over the canal led the Egyptians to seek more advanced equipment and more direct assistance from the Soviet Union. In early February, the Soviets began to introduce SA-3 missiles and associated technicians into Egypt. In the last week of February, Soviet aircraft, pilots, and ground crews began to arrive in Egypt. By April, there were 5000 Soviet technicians in Egypt. In early April, Soviet pilots began to fly operational missions over Egypt.

On April 8, eight Soviet-flown MiG-21s were encountered but were shaken off. An Egyptian-piloted MiG-21 shot down an F-4E on April 2, and its crew was taken prisoner.

In March, Egypt began to move its SAM networks gradually toward the Suez Canal. Two Phantoms were lost on June 30 and another one went down on July 5. Two more Phantoms fell to SAMs on July 18. On July 30, eight Mirage IIIs and four F-4Es encountered eight Russian-piloted MiG-21s and shot down two (some sources say four) of them.

Phantom with Israel
also there is info in the War of Attrition page in wikipedia and more, it happened on july 30 1970.

[Swat54swe]

Omg... this is so awesome!!! xD
and btw stop whine about israel vs russia. It's just a game.