[vehicle]Eurocopter AS-332 Super Puma(AS-532 Cougar)

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Salmonella
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Re: [vehicle]Eurocopter AS-332 Super Puma(AS-532 Cougar)

Post by Salmonella »

162eRI wrote:You never stop don't you!!??!!?? Once again, good job. I'm sure our British fellows will be glad to have it.

Details:
-The door have two windows. But when you open the door, only one windows remain visible, the other one is "hide".
-It may have a small thing under the tail, but I found pictures with and without. Older and modern versions? Or British version?
-Also, what about the cockpit, is it very different from the modern Cougar? I found this, but looking like an old version of the German Puma.
At last but not least, since PR made sand filters for the Black Hawk, should we make it for the Puma and Cougar ? Just a question, don't want to give you more work than you already have!(if those are sand air filters...)
I'll travel tomorrow and will be back by monday, I'll see what I can do about the sand filters, maybe create an "EXTRA" pack to sandy enviroment.
The cockpit will be another huge job, I'm really not willing to start this right now...
The windows are the easy part..
[R-DEV]Rhino wrote:really nice work so far.

Sorry on thous refs for the RAF Puma not turning up yet the MAs have some up short so far on that front.

Just one main point I would like to point out with the rotors blades. At the moment they are looking rather blockey and they may also be coming down a little low. I would put some more polies into them to make them look smoother etc. They are only seen in this state when the chopper is on the ground, not in use and when the thing is powering up and when its in flight a 4 tri double side plane is used for the "blurred rotors" so adding some extra tris doesn't really hurt performance too much :)

Here is the Z-9's rotor blades for you to go off if its some help :

Although these rotor blades could be better since they dont fully follow the correct shape etc should give you a basic idea on them :)
Keep up the good work :)
Rhino, I really like yours contructive feedback, but I have to totally disagree with this one...
I'm using exactly the same level of detail of all others choppers including Chinook, Havok, BH etc.. and more detail than others like hueys and cobra...

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Furthermore I used less tris as I can but keeping the main silhouete as you can see.
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And finally, the example on Z9 blades are by far non-aerodynamics, both uses 4 sides buts the Z9 looks like a 1" thick plank, a 15m length blade should flex a lot when stading still..
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Re: [vehicle]Eurocopter AS-332 Super Puma(AS-532 Cougar)

Post by Rhino »

'[R-CON wrote:Salmonella;1308610']Rhino, I really like yours contructive feedback, but I have to totally disagree with this one...
I'm using exactly the same level of detail of all others choppers including Chinook, Havok, BH etc.. and more detail than others like hueys and cobra...

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Furthermore I used less tris as I can but keeping the main silhouete as you can see.
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No you have miss understood what I was saying. Ummm its kinda hard to explain so I'll use some pics hehe.

Right now the problem is basically you have quite sharp bends in your blades as its drooping down, due to this blade drooping down much more than other chopper blades do ingame.

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Simplest way to fix it would be to have the blade drooping less, or to add more tris along its length so you can't see the sharp corners in it as such if you see what I mean?
'[R-CON wrote:Salmonella;1308610']And finally, the example on Z9 blades are by far non-aerodynamics, both uses 4 sides buts the Z9 looks like a 1" thick plank, a 15m length blade should flex a lot when stading still..
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Ye I know that is what I was mainly referring too when I said the Z-9 blade could be better hehe :)

The only reason why I used the Z-9 is because I had the scene open and to hand :p
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Salmonella
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Re: [vehicle]Eurocopter AS-332 Super Puma(AS-532 Cougar)

Post by Salmonella »

[R-DEV]Rhino wrote: Ye I know that is what I was mainly referring too when I said the Z-9 blade could be better hehe :)

The only reason why I used the Z-9 is because I had the scene open and to hand :p
humn, now I understand...

You may noticed this project is kind stopped, in fact I'm stuck on the internal textures, I had little progress with Hautecloque help, but nothing that worth posting.
Rhino told me about a guy working on the RAF that can help with some photos to enlight me, until that I'll be working on other projects..

So be patient...

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Re: [vehicle]Eurocopter AS-332 Super Puma(AS-532 Cougar)

Post by Rhino »

[R-CON]Salmonella wrote:Rhino told me about a guy working on the RAF that can help with some photos to enlight me, until that I'll be working on other projects..

So be patient...
Finchy got back from deployment not long ago in fact and he's on leave at the second, once he's back at his base he should be able to fix you up with a bunch of really decent refs :)

Will try to get him to get some feedback to you till then :)

Also I crated a topic for the RAF Puma in the R-CON modelling forums if you missed it.
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Re: [vehicle]Eurocopter AS-332 Super Puma(AS-532 Cougar)

Post by Sgt_Doctor »

Just one thing :

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This part is only on the Cougar, not the Puma.

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Re: [vehicle]Eurocopter AS-332 Super Puma(AS-532 Cougar)

Post by Glimmerman »

ill once more check my sources for some good refs, no promises because some stuff is still called OPSEC and therefore prohibited to take pictures off.
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Re: [vehicle]Eurocopter AS-332 Super Puma(AS-532 Cougar)

Post by Sgt_Doctor »

Cougar :

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Re: [vehicle]Eurocopter AS-332 Super Puma(AS-532 Cougar)

Post by sylent/shooter »

good eyes doc. Salmon I'm looking forward to playing everything :) Lets just hope I can get enough RAM to account for the continuous upgrades in factions and statics XD

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Re: [vehicle]Eurocopter AS-332 Super Puma(AS-532 Cougar)

Post by ***LeGeNDK1LLER*** »

'[R-COM wrote:Sgt_Doctor;1323309']Just one thing :

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mmm is that a radar?
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Re: [vehicle]Eurocopter AS-332 Super Puma(AS-532 Cougar)

Post by Rhino »

***LeGeNDK1LLER*** wrote:mmm is that a radar?
far to small and I've yet to see a non-attack helicopter with a radar mounted "long-bow" style ontop of the rotor like that. The only reason the attack helicopters have it like that is so they can stay in cover behind ridges and trees while poking there radar over the top of there cover so it can scan the battlefield ahead. With a transport chopper you dont need to do that and its far cheaper and easier to mount the radar (if it even needs one) inside the nose or under the belly etc.
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Re: [vehicle]Eurocopter AS-332 Super Puma(AS-532 Cougar)

Post by Alex6714 »

Just looks like a cover for the top of the rotor to me.

Also only use isnt targeting iirc, Brit apaches uses them for terrain following in afghanistan I think and other such things.
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Re: [vehicle]Eurocopter AS-332 Super Puma(AS-532 Cougar)

Post by Rhino »

Well ye radars can do a lot more than just find targets but the main reason for why they are mounted on the top of the rotor on the Apache, ie, long-bow style, is so the radar can scan the battlefield (targets, terrain etc) ahead of the chopper while allowing it to stay behind cover :p
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Re: [vehicle]Eurocopter AS-332 Super Puma(AS-532 Cougar)

Post by The_MDexs »

wow that i a nice Heli
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Re: [vehicle]Eurocopter AS-332 Super Puma(AS-532 Cougar)

Post by iwillkillyouhun »

amazing good job man P :D
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