=HOG= (North American) - Feedback Thread.

[FFG]

I am not part of =HOG=, I am simply giving feedback to them.

Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 21
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Default =HOG= Virginia Insurgency & Muttrah (North America)
Servers Information
=HOG= Hardcore Older Gamers has Project Reality Servers.
Any issue can be addressed at our web site posted below.

Server Name: =HOG= 24/7 MUTTRAH PR 0.937
Server IP: 208.200.45.102:1657
Server Size:64 slots
Server Location:Virginia (USA)
Map Rotation: Muttrah City,
Server Admin(s):=HOG= Linkmantower
Smart Balance:enabled
Battlerecorder :d isabled
BF2 VOIP: enabled
Ban list:Yes / Punksbusted, PBBans, GGC
Log streaming: Yes / Punksbusted, PPBans, GGC
Team Kill Auto Kick/Ban:4 punishes before auto kick / auto ban 1 round
Squadless Kick: enabled
Reserved Slots:none
High Ping Kick: enabled / 350
Ban Appeals Forum Link: News
Ventrillo:208.100.45.10:3943


GENERAL:
No racism at all this is a bannable offence
No shooting, grenades or smoke on the carrier. This may result in kick/48hr ban
No extreme language (vulgar) keep in mind kids play this game as well as adults. This may result in a kick/ 24hr ban
Respect all players and play as a team.

SQUAD:
This is a teamwork server so join a squad unassigned players will be kicked
Please promote team play by not locking your squad, so keep it to a minimum.
Hold off on making a squad until the timer has reached 1:30 mark, this is to help prevent any squad bugs on the server, and give the server time to clear the cache from the last round, this is a kickable offence.
No intentional Team-Killing, it does happen in battle so please be kind if it happens to you by mistake.
Apologize for your Team-Kills

ADMIN CONTACT:
Need an admin for any issue? Our vent info (208.100.45.10:3943) this can be found in the servers load screen as well.
Please report disruptive players to an ADMIN, DO NOT TAKE MATTERS IN TO YOUR OWN HANDS. Let the admin deal with the player that is what we are here for. This may result in a kick / 24hr ban
Team switching is not allowed if asked it is possible an admin will switch you sides but no guaranties.
Respect all the Admins.


HEAVY ASSETS:
No heavy assets (BTR, AAV, MTLB, BEAST, attack huey, CAS, Cobra, Tanks etc.) until a minimum of 20 players in the server. This may result in a kick/24hr ban
If you want to have the priority rights to any of the heavy assets, please name your squad appropriately (jet) (little bird) and so on???. and you will be given right of way.
No duplicate or one man squads this may result in a kick.
If you cannot fly, do not practice here go to a training server. This may result in a kick / 1week ban
Don?t fly HUEYs upside down.
No single seating heavy assets this may result in a kick/24hr ban.
Don?t waste assets, they cost tickets to your team and someone else might use them for something better.

MAIN BASES & FORBIDDEN ZONES:
The US team cannot occupy/attack MEC Fortress or Main Spawn area unless the Attack flag is on it.
The MEC team cannot occupy/attack US Repair Station unless MEC owns ALL Flags. This may result in a kick/48hr BAN.

However if the MEC is in the Fortress and is shooting from there.... All bets are off and it is war, US can return fire until target or targets are gone, however unless the Attack flag is on it, the US may not land forces there at all.

THIS IS A NO BASERAPE SERVER.
Do not attack or enter the main, unless the Gold Shield icon is up and (AAS) tells you that it is legal to attack.
If your squad neutralizes the enemies main flag, they have the right to stay and defend it but another flag is retaken in the middle of this, The NO BASERAPE rule is applied. This may result in a kick / 48hr ban
No firing in or at the main with assets or sniper kits from close by. This may result in kick /48hr ban
No aircraft flyovers or strafing. This may result in a kick/ 48hr ban
No mortars in the mec main or near the ramp / No mortars in the repair station
IF mortars are built in fortress USMC is allowed to eliminate the threat if fired upon by means of CAS Huey, COBRA or mortars under no circumstances is any USMC infantry allowed to enter or be near fortress until AAS marker indicates to do so.

We believe in a fair play for all, and do our best to keep the server this way.

[FFG]

This thread way created because the =HOG= Feedback thread is locked.



So this morning I woke up and figured id play some PR after playing Rust recently. So i looked at the server browser and saw HOG was up. Jumped on and had a fucking dope round on Black Gold in the hind shitting on people.

Then we went do Dovre Summer. After playing dovre for a bit, an AAS/INS mapvote came up. INS won. Without doing the !mapvote command. The admins started voting AAS maps anyways (including dovre winter), then corrected their mapvote for INS maps once half the server told them INS won 21-20. Without checking which maps via the !history command, they add Black gold to the mapvote.

I said in allchat

"we just played black gold."
"whos is the idiot picking these maps"
"do you know there is a !history command"

I was warned by one admin for "THEN DON'T VOTE FOR IT".
And was kicked by another admin.

While i think the professionalism of the admins is lack luster. I find it funny that when ive have seen Racism, Sexism, xenophobia, that the word "idiot" is the word that would get someone kicked.

Now I have no idea how the fuck =HOG= admins are trained, but it is quite evident they aren't aware of all the uses of commands. So real quick ill list them.

!history - Give list of past maps played.
!mapvote - !mapvote Hades Drang Mutt - Used to run votes for players to decided next gamemode, map, etc.
!mapvote - !mapvote - Used to show results of last mapvote ran.

In closing, Your admins are subpar at the best of times. And i personally feel bad for the people who play on your server out of necessity rather then quality.

Im sure ill be banned for this, so heres my CD hash : afff9993af960e2f1fa148594cdb3799

Lots of love
- FFG

[Tit4Tat]

Sorry, but what did you really expect mate? You blatantly in all chat called an admin (on their server), an idiot lol. I would of done exactly the same thing.

[FFG]

Sorry, but what did you really expect mate? You blatantly in all chat called an admin (on their server), an idiot lol. I would of done exactly the same thing.

I've been called much worst when I admined servers. Because I understood dealing with people playing PR taking it seriously and being passionate about it.

Both PRTA and BASED had rules where you could call an admin what ever you wanted and they wouldn't ban you.

[Tit4Tat]

Both PRTA and BASED had rules where you could call an admin what ever you wanted and they wouldn't ban you.

Well i feel sorry for PRTA and BASED than. But if some punk lol comes on my server and calls me an idiot over something trivial, i would let him know that that's not acceptable, still waiting for that time

[FFG]

Well i feel sorry for PRTA and BASED than. But if some punk lol comes on my server and calls me an idiot over something trivial, i would let him know that that's not acceptable, still waiting for that time

Something trivial? Fucking up 2 mapvotes... multiple ways screasm " I don't care about this"

[FFG]

Looking at my footage from the round before. They voted on Dover winter, and set Dovre summer...

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[Danesh_italiano]

Alphabetic votemap hog order:

Muttrah
Saarema
Battle of ia drang
Dovre
Assault on Grozny
Black Gold
Hades
Gaza
Muttrah ( yes, again, and the admin jump to the M because he dont like to play Khami or Kashan :/ )

This "alphabetic" order does not WORK! Please HOG, remove it!!! WE are continuously playing the same style map after map.

The "admin A" start the "alphabetic" order and he left when he run Hades Peak. So, the "admin B' join on the server and start the "alphabetic" order by A again...

[CAS_ual_TY]

TLDR:

- Admin did a mistake. He expected AAS to win. He couldnt check it via !mvote since he already did a new vote. But thanks for teaching
- He followed the map rotation. Bad luck that Black Gold was almost played twice
- You got kicked for calling the admin an idiot. I would've done the same
- Just because you are allowed to call an admin "idiot" on PRTA and Based doesnt mean that you can do it on all servers

[PricelineNegotiator]

FFG, why would you think it's acceptable to call someone an idiot? You caused this whole series of events to unfold because you couldn't control yourself, and then created a thread to whine about it?

The way I see it, FFG never does anything wrong in his mind, just blames someone else.

Can a moderator please infract FFG for flamebaiting?

[FFG]

I understand that in the moment the word "idiot" probably wasn't the best choice of words. Ill admit that. I still stand that HOGs admins either lack the information to correctly and effortlessly administrate a PR server, or simply don't give a shit about running one.

[Tequila]

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[Mineral]

Tbh, it's a piece of feedback. But you instantly draw conclusions that admins aren't trained and can't handle a server. Seems a bit fast without any other examples. While not every server kicks for namecalling admins, many servers do. The fault lies with you there so idk what you expected Overall everyone here made a mistake. Move on.

[FreakingSpy]

The admins on HOG are pretty bad indeed. I've seen them kicking new players for asking questions in all chat more than once.

Because apparently it's more important to kick the guy that's not hurting anyone's game experience than helping a new player.

The community is fine, but the staff is annoying as hell.

[solidfire93]

the Rules are the warning !
how hard can it be to understand that ?

[Vista]

the Rules are the warning !
how hard can it be to understand that ?

Well, it's hard for new players. If johny downloaded the game 5 minutes ago and joined the server, and gets kicked straight up for not knowing a rule, is that really fair?

I mean, by all means it's their server and I kind enjoy the 'no bullshit' policy, but you can't say it's fair to the more 'unaware' people

[YAK-R]

the Rules are the warning !
how hard can it be to understand that ?

It really is a shame to see this. HOG often is sadly is one of the only populated servers, ie the only play you can play PR at certain hours. They are so hostile to new players, we should be trying to grow the community and help them. Not ban them and send them to your junky website.
PR obviously has a very steep learning curve, similar communities for games like EVE and dwarf fortress recognise this and do everything they can to support new players. Shame you haven't gotten the message.

[rebane24]

I remember if i was hog member. Everything was balanced all the time. Hog is the best and will be forever. But its so bad we have a lot of new players and they dont read manual and than its hard to play.
Good luck hog.
Cheers

[FFG]

I remember if i was hog member. Everything was balanced all the time. Hog is the best and will be forever. But its so bad we have a lot of new players and they dont read manual and than its hard to play.
Good luck hog.
Cheers

- removed - Stick to actual feedback /Mod

[Brozef]

There is something wrong with this server, 3 times in the last couple of weeks the entire server crashes to desktop except for 2-3 players. It's not a server crash because the map keeps running, but the entire player group crashes at the same time. I don't recall this kind of mass ctd ever happening so frequently.