Vietnam CAS

cookoo04 · Post by **cookoo04** » 2011-02-12 23:44

Ok, so I was wondering what method is used to call in Close Air Support during the Vietnam era. Currently in PR, we simply use the laser designators to "laze" a target so that the bombs can be guided in. However, what are we going to use now to tell our air support where the bombs need to hit? Cause I am not so sure there was laser designation technology in Vietnam like there is now.

Arnoldio · Post by **Arnoldio** » 2011-02-12 23:58

Map grid, landmark, angle of attack.

???

PROFIT!

Q2M100 · Post by **Q2M100** » 2011-02-13 00:38

Not to be sarcastic, but its called an attack marker...

I assume there will only be free-fall bombs when it comes to bombs themselves, so no need for a laser designation-like system.

Hitman.2.5 · Post by **Hitman.2.5** » 2011-02-13 00:39

well the fact that the engine wont allow for a working CCIP (Continuously Computed Impact Point) we will have to revert to the BF2 vanilla dive bombing tactics, they did have guided bombs such as the AGM-62 walleye

AGM-62 Walleye - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

the AGM-12

AGM-12 Bullpup - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

and in the final years of the war the paveway I, was been combat tested.

Conman51 · Post by **Conman51** » 2011-02-13 02:29

Red Smoke from mortars possibly? Lots of people shooting at a point so the pilots can see the tracers?

dtacs · Post by **dtacs** » 2011-02-13 02:44

Conman51 wrote:Red Smoke from mortars possibly? Lots of people shooting at a point so the pilots can see the tracers?

If smoke is not deployed whilst it is within the pilots maximum view distance, they won't be able to see it.

I would like to see no markers at all, rather a grid location or the infantry giving a landmark and entry/exit direction, would require more skilled pilots.

Conman51 · Post by **Conman51** » 2011-02-13 03:05

dtacs wrote:If smoke is not deployed whilst it is within the pilots maximum view distance, they won't be able to see it.

even with high graphics?

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dtacs · Post by **dtacs** » 2011-02-13 03:16

Not sure, haven't looked into it, I think it may be inherent from vBF2 though.

sell · Post by **sell** » 2011-02-13 05:00

What is if the squad leader, set a marker, take his binocular look at the target and make a guess how fare it is away, then take the radio to call cas, so the team can see the target on the map?

cookoo04 · Post by **cookoo04** » 2011-02-13 05:15

Yeah I think in this case we might revert to the original attack markers that can be seen from very far away so that the pilot can get a good sense of the elevation and specific location of his target and judge when to drop the bombs himself.

Psyko · Post by **Psyko** » 2011-02-13 11:26

could use HIMARS armoured rocket platforms instead. (tanks with rockets) fire them in the same way we generate coordinates for mortars. that being the option for a specific target bombardment. but when it comes to aircraft, iron bombs and napalm all the way.

Hunt3r · Post by **Hunt3r** » 2011-02-18 06:36

We should have attack markers with very visible smoke.

андрей_111 · Post by **андрей_111** » 2011-02-18 06:52

Good thing you took up fashion design PRV. Waiting for this mod very much.

Gozjh · Post by **Gozjh** » 2011-02-18 19:39

Perhaps you can mark friendly positions with smoke and then tell the CAS platform to "hit such and such near such and such land mark, 250m W of friendly's marked by smoke"? Or perhaps Flares shot over enemy positions? I have no clue how commen they are (having difficulty find sources) but here is a link and a quote.

(Well maby not the smoke, forgot about the smoke bug thing for pilots)

Vietnam - Equipment and Uniform

Graham Sherwood wrote: Hand Held Rocket Propelled Signal Flares. These hand held rocket propelled signal grenades eliminated the need for a rifle or grenade launcher for signalling purposes. These signals contained their own launching mechanism and were designed to reach a minimum height of 200 metres...

Images and types of flares also in the page linked.

Another option is to have the CAS aircraft shoot a few rounds from its gun at a target that was called in and "walk" the aircraft on to the target. this could also help prevent freindly fires.

SlLeNceR · Post by **SlLeNceR** » 2011-02-18 19:59

Nice question lol.

sharpie · Post by **sharpie** » 2011-02-18 23:25

Hunt3r wrote:We should have attack markers with very visible smoke.

As long as you use bright pink smoke, it looks cool.

EITY10 · Post by **EITY10** » 2011-02-19 10:48

men this mod is still dead...

puppetmaster532 · Post by **puppetmaster532** » 2011-03-04 20:08

well they did have tv and radio guided bombs and missiles there was a documentary on the raid they where used on but i forget which one... it was late in the war tho also the early tv and radio guided bombs weren't that accurate.

arjan · Post by **arjan** » 2011-03-04 20:53

How about a soflam with an radio model instead?

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